The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[maryz]

when they exercise the authentic magisterium

About 99.99% (at a conservative estimate) of what they say doesn't even come close. Their personal opinions don't count.

[wagglebee]

And some believe you are instructed to submit your will and intellect to the Bishops, the Pope, and the Magisterium. Further, anything they say or write is a teaching. Now where did they get that idea?

You seem to miss the term "faith and morals," these are specific areas, not EVERYTHING.

I'm curious, what MORAL teachings of the Catholic Church are you opposed to? I know that many Protestants have relaxed or even abandoned their opposition to divorce, contraception, abortion, ordination of women and homosexuality. So, which of the Church's moral teachings do YOU disagree with?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for your encouragement, dear sister in Christ!

[OLD REGGIE]

"... The enemy continues to trick into quibling over semantics and thinking that to Love others, on earth or in heaven, is taking away from God. In my Catholic faith it is the contrary.

Who is this "enemy" you speak of?

I need your help and, since you have so much love to spare, I'm sure you will give this help.

I have read each and every of the more than 1,000 posts on this thread and can not recall any of "the enemy" claiming "...that to Love others, on earth or in heaven, is taking away from God."

Please point out a few of your examples of this thinking.

[papertyger]

Come on. We’ve all seen this poster in action. Do any of us think they would let the truth stand in the way of a “mine’s bigger than your?”

[papertyger]

Well, there was that fake nun...

Wasn't she a stripper? ;o)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

But truly the one and only Great Commandment is an absolute. We must love God surpassingly above all else.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. - Deuteronomy 6:4-5

If a person doesn't get that right, nothing else will matter. (see post 1059)

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

[NYer]

Forgive my skepticism, but I’ve always found the whole family leaving the Church en masse thing a little suspect.

I can understand how this would happen, especially when the children are young. Let's be honest. In today's society, it is so much more tantalizing to leave the Catholic Church for a denomination that does not frown on artificial birth control or the decision not to reproduce. And like the Protestants, we also have families that come into the Church, like this one.

Pastor and Flock Convert to Catholicism

[wagglebee]

Good point!

That’s the beauty of doing this online, it’s easy to say that your entire town was Catholic and then one day, they just all quit the Church at once.

[papertyger]

The old "Proselytizing-2x4-to-the-head of Love." Thank you Calvin may I have another!?!

Sado-evangelism at its finest!

[wagglebee]

I wasn’t referring so much to a “nuclear family” of a father, mother and young children. It was this idea of a large family of adult brothers, sisters, spouses, etc. doing it all at once, especially within throughout a neighborhood. If what Dr. E. mentioned is true, the local priest was obviously doing something very wrong.

[Quix]

But then I might have to label it with some RC labels and that would appear to make it personal! LOL.

Naw. I’m happy with my tagline.

[wagglebee]

Wasn't she a stripper? ;o)

Well, one of the anti-Catholics on FR would like people to believe that he is a porn star. In fact his FReeper homepage links to pornography.

[Running On Empty]

In my “anecdotal experience” I agree with you about the difference in the two groups.

I believe that is also a significant difference. Of all the converts to the Catholic Church that I personally know, I can’t think of any who did not acknowledge the value of their Christian life before their entrance into the Church. They don’t make it a practice to denounce their Protestant roots. Thank God. They are better Catholics witnesses because of that attitude.

[Quix]

I’ve observed that it usually happens that way.

[OLD REGGIE]

I’d say that ANY of those “dozens and dozens” didn’t have a clue that the Bible is read in every Holy Mass.

One of those "dozens" does know that you can attend Mass for 100 years and never hear the entire Bible.

I’ve met tons of ex-Catholics in the homeschooling groups. And tons of converts to the RCC. You should hear the things said about Protestants by them! One man has told me never to go to a Protestant church for fear that they will pollute my children. Yikes!

Can we agree that all who leave the Catholic Church and become Protestant are essentially phonies who leave for selfish reasons and all who leave a Protestant Church for the Catholic Church do so for pure and holy reasons?

[wagglebee]

Extended families, six or seven brothers and sisters, and their spouses and children all at once?

[Quix]

When “verbal”

is left off the front of

2 X 4

it is bearing false witness.

Pure and simple. Brazenly clear case.

[trisham]

Seriously?

[Quix]

What an excellent analysis, explanation.

100% correct, imho. thanks.