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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)
Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg
“Whether you like it or not, members of the PCUSA consider themselves, and are generally considered to be, Calvinists”
And Dignity and Catholics for a Free Choice consider themselves Catholics. What is your point?.
Dr. Eckleburg; forgive me for breaking my promise, please.
10,441
posted on
06/30/2008 2:10:56 PM PDT
by
enat
To: enat
...Dignity and Catholics for a Free Choice...Nice comparison to PCUSA.
10,442
posted on
06/30/2008 2:13:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: tiki; Dr. Eckleburg
Esau thrived and that is obvious from the Bible but 2 little verses, taken out of context are used to prove that there are elect and non-elect..Are you serious?
10,443
posted on
06/30/2008 2:14:43 PM PDT
by
1000 silverlings
(Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
To: wagglebee
I’ve got an idea. Ordain CLOSETED homosexuals, so many it represents a large number of your clergy, and PRETEND you don’t.
10,444
posted on
06/30/2008 2:16:30 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: OLD REGGIE
“I am certain you will chase down the “Catholics” who followed enat around”
I appreciate your covering my back here. This is really no problem. In my profession when one has to resort to questioning academic credentials one has no real defense to the argument. I consider it a compliment.
10,445
posted on
06/30/2008 2:17:37 PM PDT
by
enat
To: OLD REGGIE
One of them went so far as to post a link to a phony Diploma Mill with the slightly disguised charge concerning enat's credentials. Truly? Because this is harrassment
10,446
posted on
06/30/2008 2:19:45 PM PDT
by
1000 silverlings
(Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
To: Petronski
“Nice comparison to PCUSA”
You like that? They are about on the same moral level now.
10,447
posted on
06/30/2008 2:19:51 PM PDT
by
enat
To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE
Its clear where Esau belongs, except perhaps to some protestants. where does he belong?
10,448
posted on
06/30/2008 2:25:00 PM PDT
by
1000 silverlings
(Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
To: enat
They are about on the same moral level now.No, not really.
Catholics for Free Choice promote killing of innocents. That's far worse than any thing PCUSA or Dignity could do. Murder trumps all.
10,449
posted on
06/30/2008 2:25:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: wagglebee; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; PAR35; irishtenor; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; RnMomof7; RochesterFan; ..
Whether you like it or not, members of the PCUSA consider themselves, and are generally considered to be, Calvinists. Whether you like it or not, members of the PCUSA consider themselves, and are generally considered to be, Calvinists.
The PCUSA does not regard itself as a Calvinist denominiation. I was a member of the PCUSA. Very few of the Presbyterians in that denomination have even read Calvin. Sadly, by this recent vote permitting the ordination of practicing homosexuals, contrary to the will of vast numbers of members in the denomination, the PCUSA has further removed itself from much of Scripture and the theology Calvin articulated and taught.
Neither the PCA nor the OPC capitulates on the Gospel and its teachings concerning homosexuality. Such modernism was part of what caused the denomination to splinter in the first place.
But by the grace of God, the remnant survives, regardless of men's ignorance and schemes.
And by this act the membership rolls of the PCA and the OPC will undoubtedly grow.
10,450
posted on
06/30/2008 2:27:53 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Petronski
Not only is it not part of Catholic teaching, it is prohibited.
Legislators have a Code of Ethics. Legislators lie, cheat, and steal.
Police have a Code of Ethics. Police lie, cheat, and steal.
Lawyers have a Code of Ethics. Lawyers lie, cheat, and steal.
The Catholic Church doesn't teach the worship of Mary. Catholics do.
Eliminate the "Catholics" who violate "Catholic Teaching" and you have a tiny minority religion.
Your "Catholic Teaching" ploy is meaningless.
10,451
posted on
06/30/2008 2:29:45 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: 1000 silverlings; tiki; Dr. Eckleburg
“Esau thrived and that is obvious from the Bible but 2 little verses, taken out of context are used to prove that there are elect and non-elect”
David had the same problem thinking prosperity is a sign of God’s favor.
Psa 73:12 Behold, these [are] the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase [in] riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart [in] vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend [against] the generation of thy children.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it [was] too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; [then] understood I their end.
Dr. Eckleburg: I just got absolution from a lawyer for my church.
10,452
posted on
06/30/2008 2:30:10 PM PDT
by
enat
To: Petronski
You're changing the subject. Following your debate technique...
No, I'm not.
10,453
posted on
06/30/2008 2:30:39 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
***Does God know who will receive faith in Christ, and who will not, and yet does God create both those categories of men anyway?***
A step up, for sure. Keep trying, you’re almost there.
10,454
posted on
06/30/2008 2:31:15 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Quix
[KISSING THE FOOT OF A STATUE OF A MAN! What part of this escapes you guys?] ANSWER:
Virtually ALL of it! GOD--PLEASE Have Mercy !!!
So it would seem. None are so blind, and all that...
10,455
posted on
06/30/2008 2:31:41 PM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
To: enat
Only if you say 27 Hail Marys and promise to floss.
8~)
10,456
posted on
06/30/2008 2:32:26 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: 1000 silverlings
They seem to have been "serious" about this for days.
It's almost like once they have an opinion, NOTHING is going to change that opinion, not even the truth.
10,457
posted on
06/30/2008 2:33:57 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: enat
I appreciate your covering my back here. This is really no problem. In my profession when one has to resort to questioning academic credentials one has no real defense to the argument. I consider it a compliment.
I understand. Frankly though, I was emphasizing the double standard shown here by many and used the "harrassment" of you as an example.
10,458
posted on
06/30/2008 2:36:11 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: OLD REGGIE
I've got an idea. Ordain CLOSETED homosexuals, so many it represents a large number of your clergy, and PRETEND you don't. LOL.
And then when they're faced with evidence of the sexual abuse of minors in their congregation, shuffle these men around to other unsuspecting parishes so they can continue their abuse with impunity.
10,459
posted on
06/30/2008 2:37:05 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: OLD REGGIE
I recognize that but just wanted to say I appreciated your concern.
10,460
posted on
06/30/2008 2:37:43 PM PDT
by
enat
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