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To: Iscool
Paul knew he was a sinner because he couldn't keep the law...And that's not the ceremonial law as you guys falsly claim...We're talking the 10 Commandments here...Paul became aware of sin when the Commandments showed up...Had nothing to do with faith...

I still maintain that the reality of God for St. Paul was never made a fact for him until his encounter with Christ. However, even if one takes the view you do (that St. Paul knew that, say, adultery was wrong from the 10 Commandments), this sill proves what I'm saying, which is, one must have a "fact" to base one's faith upon, or else it's a theological construct. An abstraction. IOW, not a "reality", by every definition of the word "reality".

So, let's say St. Paul knew adultery was wrong for what you say, because of the 10 commandments (and note, as an aside, in my prior post I don't exclude other sources of reality for St. Paul, I only said *one* of these sources was probably his encounter on the road to Damascus). The point is, again, he *knew* it was wrong. This implies the necessity for a fact. And a fact, can only be derived from reality. The rest of my prior post then follows from this.

88 posted on 05/14/2008 7:03:37 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
I still maintain that the reality of God for St. Paul was never made a fact for him until his encounter with Christ. However, even if one takes the view you do (that St. Paul knew that, say, adultery was wrong from the 10 Commandments),

It's not MY view...It's what the scripture says...Without interpretation...

And my point is; man's wisdom is useless without the truth of the scripture...AND, you'll never understand scripture with your own wisdom...

1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

92 posted on 05/14/2008 7:42:27 AM PDT by Iscool
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