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To: FourtySeven
I still maintain that the reality of God for St. Paul was never made a fact for him until his encounter with Christ. However, even if one takes the view you do (that St. Paul knew that, say, adultery was wrong from the 10 Commandments),

It's not MY view...It's what the scripture says...Without interpretation...

And my point is; man's wisdom is useless without the truth of the scripture...AND, you'll never understand scripture with your own wisdom...

1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

92 posted on 05/14/2008 7:42:27 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

These are all very true and good points. However, what I’m talking about is the need for man to have a “fact” to base one’s faith upon. This fact is, of course (as the verses you posted state) God.

IOW, what I’m stating here is (and what I stated in the original post that got your intention) was that if one’s faith is not based on a fact (if say, we are just Christians because our family raised us that way, or to look good in a community), it will never really be real to that person. This fact must be so remarkable that it can only come from God. So I’m not saying that it is our wisdom apart from God that gets us to Him. It’s our wisdom, based on the initial fact that comes from God, that can be used to come to a fuller (more mature) understanding and grounding of our faith.


98 posted on 05/14/2008 9:17:12 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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