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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
I learned a long time ago that people act and REact the way they want to. If you want to feel it was personal, you will. I don’t take your comments personally because I don’t want to waste my time with that kind of emotion.
You can say anything about me and my home page you want to, and it won’t make any of it true, nor will it make me respond in kind, simply because that’s not who I am. If you want to take offense at something, have at it. :o])
oops, make that one MONTH old, not one year.
I voted for him in NY state instead of the others. I felt he would do a better job and his being a Mormon didn’t influence how I felt.
Whoa! That WOULD be scary! Was it a “good” name? Or was it something you wished had never happened? If you’re like most people, you don’t like your given name.
I’ve learned to live with mine, and there are days when I prefer my screen name!!
And I will rejoice when I see YOU there, MHG.
LOL!
Maybe I need to go back and see if mine can be improved!!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.
Then you must be doing something right!
Book of Nephi as verification for Mormonism doctrine on ‘other sheep’? ... Bwahahaha, no your religion isn’t circular at all! /sarc
YES, there is.
I did one of those MySpace surveys and they asked what I would change my middle name to.
I said, “Ironman”
I think I’ll change it to this.
I wasn't ridiculing you I was pointing out that it should be pretty obvious by the rest of your home page that the "Mormon Name" thing was for fun, just like the pirate name, harry potter character, and others.
Twas SkyPilot that pointed to it for ridicule's sake picked that out of everything else buried in there.
But hey if you wanna jump down my throat for it too no skin off my back.
“No, theyre probably full of love by trying to minister to Mormons. Victims always think theyre being bashed by haters and thats not true. Sometimes they are trying to speak truth to people and its not wanted or accepted. So theyre called haters instead. Sigh.”
Among the description of how believing Catholics are to deal with Mormons is this:
“”We dont bash your church, why bash ours?””
“Somehow, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have been persuaded by their leaders that they have always been on the receiving end of uncharitable comments and unjust accusations. From the time Joseph Smith began his work in 1820, the Mormon church has gloried in the “fact” that it is a persecuted people. For them, this is a sure sign that it is the Lords true church; all opposition comes ultimately from Satan. So, if you do offer a question or a criticism, be prepared for this reaction.
Many Mormons, including their hierarchy, look upon any criticismregardless of how honest and sincereas perverseness inspired by the Evil One. But these same individuals ignore their own past (and present) attacks on Christian churches. You might like to point out a few of these to those Mormons who say their church “never attacks other churches.”
http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormon_Stumpers.asp
It’s called the ‘pecking order.’
It’s called the ‘pecking order.’
I’m sorry if you got offended, as that was not my intent.
Thanks for recognizing my home page for what it is!
I’m sorry if you got offended, as that was not my intent.
Thanks for recognizing my home page for what it is!
I’m sorry if you got offended, as that was not my intent.
Thanks for recognizing my home page for what it is!
I love my given name. I guess it means that it is a typical Mormon name too. And yes, I WAS a typical Mormon.
Thanks! :o]
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