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To: Wonder Warthog
Try this. Maccabees was included to provide a foundation with which to establish a hierarchical system over His people. Christ was not a big proponent of this. Did the Lord ever desire a King over Israel? No. But He gave them one due to their unbelief.

He knows that people are ALL fallible. If people are fallible and imperfect and subject to corruption, so will their institutions be, especially when they wield supreme executive power. That is where the rcc has remained since 393; a corrupt, greedy and power hungry political institution, lacking in the feeding of Christ's people and unable to guide them. The evidence is in the way the people conduct themselves.

Mary and saint worship...when Christ is our one and only mediator with the Father. What the heck are you guys thinking going to others when you can go directly to the main Man!? Why do you need a priest to confess....when we're charged to confess to one another!? You guys waste so much of your time on other heretical ‘holy’ acts instead of doing the one thing you were created to do....Bring glory to Christ in praise and worship in EVERYTHING you do.

The rcc has a very dark past. You need to open your eyes and see who you're blindly following into hell.

209 posted on 05/07/2008 8:14:20 AM PDT by griffin
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To: griffin
"Try this. Maccabees was included to provide a foundation with which to establish a hierarchical system over His people. Christ was not a big proponent of this. Did the Lord ever desire a King over Israel? No. But He gave them one due to their unbelief."

So, the folks who made up the Catholic Church in the first two centuries were able to look into the future and forsee the Protestant Reformation, and so included Maccabees just to stave off Protestant arguments??? You "do" realize just how stupid that notion is, don't you.

And as to the "..the Lord desiring a King over Israel...", Christ is acknowledged throughout Scripture as the royal heir to the kingly House of David.

"Mary and saint worship...when Christ is our one and only mediator with the Father. What the heck are you guys thinking going to others when you can go directly to the main Man!? Why do you need a priest to confess....when we're charged to confess to one another!? You guys waste so much of your time on other heretical ‘holy’ acts instead of doing the one thing you were created to do....Bring glory to Christ in praise and worship in EVERYTHING you do."

And you finish up with the standard Protestant lies about what the Catholic Church believes. I really don't believe that you were ever a Catholic, because you certainly didn't learn much about the Church while you were supposedly there.

"You need to open your eyes and see who you're blindly following into hell."

If you knew how much time and study I spent researching everything about the Catholic Church before becoming one... I can guarantee that my entry therein was anything BUT "blind".

211 posted on 05/07/2008 3:21:46 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: griffin
Maccabees was included to provide a foundation with which to establish a hierarchical system over His people.

Huh? Maccabees was written by and for and to Jews, who already had a hierarchical system.

Mostly it's about trusting in God in the face of adversity and trouble. I don't believe you've actually read it.

212 posted on 05/07/2008 3:29:48 PM PDT by Campion
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