Posted on 04/28/2008 6:33:10 AM PDT by NYer
In the run-up to Pope Benedict XVI's visit to the United States, there was a tremendous display of unseriousness at the National Press Club, followed by a sacrilege at a nearby Washington, D.C., church.
A misguided group called the Women's Ordination Conference held a protest – a press conference and an all-woman "Mass" at a local Methodist church. The group, as the name suggests, wants to see "the ordination of women as priests, deacons and bishops." Sadly, the group doesn't understand women or the Catholic Church.
In a prepared statement, WOC executive director Aisha Taylor declared:
"The failure to ordain women is a blatant manifestation of sexism in the church that has wider repercussions in the world.
"In the three years of his papacy, Pope Benedict XVI has made a few encouraging statements about women, but he has done nothing that suggests willingness to open the discussion on women's ordination. That's why for his 81st birthday, we are offering the pope a present: the gift of women, their leadership, talents, experiences and unique perspectives."
The group trailed the popemobile to papal events with a billboard truck that asked: "Pope Benedict, How long must women wait for equality? Ordain Catholic Women."
As they are stuck on their version of "equality," the fundamental problem with the group and its message is that whatever Benedict says or does will not be enough for them. They are not open to listening, but to dictating an unworkable agenda. If they were open to it, they would hear and see the Roman Catholic Church's embrace and celebration of women. Women will not be priests, but they will always be an essential part of the Church.
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Why do think people have stopped believing in transubstantiation?
Sigh...I’ll never be a mother and women will never be priest.
If there is evidence, you should be able to find it pretty easily via Google.
Wow, that's a lot of overgrown sorority chicks in Girl Power t-shirts.
I don't know of any complete compilation of data, but Cheverus posted recently on an article in Catholic World Report lising the American dioceses in order of number of vocations per 100,000 (I think) Catholics. He said it wasn't on the 'net, and the only thing I remember is that Boston was 162 out of 174. (Yes, I'm in Boston.)
If he could identify the back issue, you might be able to get a copy.
What we know now is that the current system does not work.
And you’re right, who knows how many women will want to become priests? Still, if they seek out the priesthood at the same rate men do, we’d have twice as many candidates. That’s a start.
In hours and hours, no one has come up with a reason women shouldn’t be priests here, aside from variations on “it’s just not done!” and “over my dead body!” Not surprising.
Because they were never told WHY they should believe in it. Because they don’t know WHY the Church preaches against Artifical Contraception, abortion, and homosexual “marriage”. Same thing with women priests. Just because a bunch of twenty-somethings who have never cracked the Catechism think it’s a good thing doesn’t make it so.
Do you believe in the Real Presence?
Nothing left in your arsenal but lame ad hominem jabs? I’m shocked!
Anecdote is not data. The majority of self-identified "Catholics" don't even bother to attend Mass. Are they "right," too?
By the way, one of your errors is the assertion that upholders of orthodoxy need to "prove" that attempting to ordain women is "not right".
Sorry, that's backwards. The burden of proof is 100% on you; you need to prove that the deposit of faith permits it and indeed requires it.
You can't. Your arguments amount to:
Why do you keep demanding statistics on seminary enrollment, etc., when they have absolutely no bearing on your position? Even if there was a 1:1 ratio of priest to parishioner you’d still be stomping your feet about this non-issue. And if it truly is such an onerous doctrine, it begs the question, why continue to attend, contribute to, and raise your children in a Catholic parish when so many other enlightened denominations are waiting with open arms? You don’t believe in papal infallibility, so why call yourself a Catholic? (saving face with grandma, or what?)
Lighten up, you’re no victim. (and who was it that threw around the words “bigot” and “misogynist”, hmmm???)
Did Jesus ordain any amputees as priests? Does that mean amputees shouldn’t be priests?
In hours and hours, no one has come up with a reason women shouldn’t be priests here ...We've given you several, but you haven't grasped it yet. Let's try a different iteration.
The priest is the icon of Jesus, who was a man. On a deeper level, the priest is the icon of Christ who comes as the head and bridegroom of the Church, of Christ who comes to pastor and to conceive within the Church the life of grace. The priest is an icon for the whole mystery of Christ’s mediation of God to the people.
Stop grasping at straws. Do you believe in the Real Presence?
Oh, don’t worry. I’m light as a feather. And I’d use those words again to describe a few posters here with no reservations. I’m surprised you’d even take offense at them.
All right, kiddos. I REALLY gotta run.
#10 and #64.
You’re projecting.
And I’m Catholic. What do you think?
That just shows how out of touch you are.
From Survey assesses Catholics' beliefs, practices on Mass, sacraments
When asked whether they agreed with the statement, "In deciding what is morally acceptable, I look to Catholic Church teachings and statements made by the pope and bishops to form my conscience," the pre-Vatican II Catholics (28 percent) and millennial Catholics (23 percent) were most strongly in agreement.
Fine by me, just don't turn around and cry "ad hominem attack!!" at a little sarcastic humor.
I’m surprised you’d even take offense at them.
Put words in anyone's mouth, much? Who said I was offended? Geez louise.
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