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To: TraditionalistMommy
My church is also just down the street, and the majority of those in the parish, as in the rest of the country, side with me.

Anecdote is not data. The majority of self-identified "Catholics" don't even bother to attend Mass. Are they "right," too?

By the way, one of your errors is the assertion that upholders of orthodoxy need to "prove" that attempting to ordain women is "not right".

Sorry, that's backwards. The burden of proof is 100% on you; you need to prove that the deposit of faith permits it and indeed requires it.

You can't. Your arguments amount to:

  1. Jesus only ordained men, but -- although he was God in the flesh -- he was just being weak and conforming to his culture (!!!!)
  2. It's required to satisfy some abstract concept of "justice", as though a person could demand ordination in fulfillment of some sort of right. It's not a right but a privilege.
  3. Not being ordainable makes women "second-class citizens". (Even though you admit that churches are overwhelmingly female already!) This argument is pure clericalism, and stems from "Catholics" who do not understand that their vocation as Catholic laypeople is to bring the world into the church, not to make the church look, act, and feel like the world.
  4. The Church is "dying" otherwise. Untrue; orthodox dioceses and orthodox religious orders are flourishing. What you propose amounts to ecclesial euthanasia.

150 posted on 04/28/2008 11:18:55 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

Did Jesus ordain any amputees as priests? Does that mean amputees shouldn’t be priests?


153 posted on 04/28/2008 11:22:42 AM PDT by TraditionalistMommy
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