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To: pgyanke; OLD REGGIE; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
You've posted something in favor of the Catholic position. You see, we don't pigeon-hole God. There is more than one meaning to nearly every verse in the Bible. There can be multiple proximate meanings and a greater, eternal meaning. They can be understood on many levels and an explanation may depend on the message one is conveying.

I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now. And yet, even if every Catholic and Protestant here agreed with this view, I'm certain that we Protestants would be told that no matter what meaning or message any of us comes up with for any given verse, it will be the wrong one...

892 posted on 04/28/2008 2:50:22 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alex Murphy
I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now.

Irrelevant.

I'm certain that we Protestants would be told that no matter what meaning or message any of us comes up with for any given verse, it will be the wrong one...

Insofar as it differs with the actual meaning, of course.

896 posted on 04/28/2008 2:52:47 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Alex Murphy
I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now.

It's called Typology.

And yet, even if every Catholic and Protestant here agreed with this view, I'm certain that we Protestants would be told that no matter what meaning or message any of us comes up with for any given verse, it will be the wrong one...

That's a very dim view to take. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not pre-disposed to disagree with someone on one issue because I disagree on another. I take issue where I find it and agree when in accord with Christ's Church.

898 posted on 04/28/2008 2:57:13 PM PDT by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: Alex Murphy; pgyanke
I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now.

Pgyanke also said "original sin is something we lost, not something we carry."

Lots of unique opinions here.

908 posted on 04/28/2008 3:14:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alex Murphy
They can be understood on many levels and an explanation may depend on the message one is conveying.

I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now.

Check Aquinas. First Part, Question 1, Article 10. And he quotes Augustine. We've been saying it for around 1,500 years.

927 posted on 04/28/2008 5:51:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Alex Murphy; pgyanke; OLD REGGIE; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
pgyanke: There is more than one meaning to nearly every verse in the Bible. There can be multiple proximate meanings and a greater, eternal meaning.

A. Murphy: I've never seen any Catholic on FR claim this view before now.

Seems to me that pgyanke is speaking the truth, in spite of what is often said here on FR by other Catholics.

Let's look at divorce. Scripture forbids it. The RC church forbids it. But, we all know that there needs to be a mechanism to allow a marriage to break up. Voila! Let's invent something called an annulment and have Rome mediate. Rome can allow a marriage to break up, but not divorce. This allows for multiple proximate meanings as defined by Rome.

962 posted on 04/29/2008 1:55:12 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: Alex Murphy

And yet, even if every Catholic and Protestant here agreed with this view, I’m certain that we Protestants would be told that no matter what meaning or message any of us comes up with for any given verse, it will be the wrong one...

= = =

INDEED.

Alas, they have little choice . . . folks wedded to, welded to an edifice instead of JESUS THE CHRIST must cling to the edifice for dear life . . . it’s all they really have . . . besides even less substantial sawdust, ashes.


1,246 posted on 04/29/2008 9:53:48 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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