We are saved by faith, our works are the evidence of that salvation. Pretty clear to me.
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Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Works? Yep. Faith? Yep. Both? Yep.
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True faith produces works in time. True faith alone saves as evidenced by the thief on the cross who didn’t have time to do good works.
Someone who claims to have faith but never produces works, needs to examine whether or not they really have faith. But it is still the faith that saves not the works. And not all who have works have faith, for it is written that some will point to their works and Jesus will say “I never knew you”.
Faith, which leads one to admit that he is a sinner, and to call upon Jesus for forgiveness, yields forgiveness. And with forgiveness there is no accusation of sin, therefore why would one die the second death, even for lack of works, if there is forgiveness?
"15 For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. "
You might fear chastisement from your earthly father, but you don't fear you will cease to be his child. Same with those that receive Jesus, we do not have to fear abandonment, for Jesus said he would never drive us away. And the prophet Joel said we would never leave.
"He who believes in me has eternal life" If you can lose it, it ain't eternal.
This Protestant believes that we are saved by Christ alone. Placing our faith in Him is accepting the gift.
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You cannot live like the devil and end up with the angels. A deathbed confession would be an exception to that. The thief on the cross is an example.
This is one of those arguments that serves primarily to discredit religion.
I think it was Augustin who said (paraphrase): “Love God and do what you like.”
God chose Jacob before Jacob was even born. Why? Not because of anything Jacob had done. It was an act of unmerited grace on the part of God.
God saves whom God saves.
Someone recently asked me how many people there will be in Heaven.
My answer was: as many as God wants.
An opposition to Grace alone: Revelation 22:12: “Behold, I am coming soon. I bring with me the recompense I will give to each according to his deeds”
Jesus here is talking about your deeds. The first deed He will look at is did you accept Him. If you did you are saved. If you did not then He looks at your other deeds and those will never measure up to His Holiness no matter what you did and thus you are cast into the lake of fire.
We are saved by Christ alone through his Church. Those want to get into a pedantic argument with a never-ending ping pong match of Bible quotations are missing the whole point. We cannot save ourselves (how conceited) whether by faith or works.
You better hope salvation isn’t based on paragraph tags. ;)
James 2:
17 - Even so faith,if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 - Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 - Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
The life and death of Jesus Christ is the sole basis of our justification, faith in Christ is the sole instrument of our justification, and good works are the necessary result of a life thus justified.
It’s quite simple. Confusion can place your eternal soul in jeopardy.
The whole gist of Romans, Galatians 3 and 4, and many other New Testament passages that refer to faith, grace, and the law, also refer to Abraham and the pact. No one ever asks, “Why is Abraham always mentioned? Why not Noah, or Enoch, or some other great patriarch?” No one ever asks which specific law is referred to? There are over 600 laws in the Torah (Genesis to Deuteronomy). The reason no one ever asks is because no one ever reads the Torah and thus don’t really understand the New Testament even though they think they do. It’s like going to the movies at half time. How can you understand the end of the movie if you didn’t see the beginning? How can anyone understand the New when Paul is speaking about Old? Yet no one reads the Old. I have a very simplistic question before going any farther. Why does the word circumcision appear so many times in the New Testament? Why does Paul keep referring to that? What is he talking about 430 years in Galatians 3:17? I have never met anyone that can answer these types of questions. I’m curious if there are any real bible students here?
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The Scriptures that the God of Israel is the author of plainly state that one who is born after the Ressurection of Jesus Christ from the dead to everlasting life must be saved by faith alone in the finished WorK of Gods Christ at Calvary.
This simply means that good works of sinners is not acceptable to God because the person who does good works is a sinner and all good works, though good, can not pay for sin no matter how many good works are done. We are condemned from our birth day because we are sinners from our nativity, born in sin, speaking lies from the womb, and all the high faluting good works we do simply can not pay for our sin.
But God sent Jesus the Christ who did no sin to become our sin sacrife on the bloody tree of Calvary and who overcame sin and death and the grave when he overcame the devil on ressurection of HIS Body from the dead. From this point on and until the rapture, God has saved people by grace through faith in the Son of God and purposely forgives sins past, present and future the moment they believe how Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose again the third day for our salvation. God meets sinners in their sin and justifies the ungodly when they believe Him and Christ Jesus, forgives them, and begins the santification of the saved soul the moment He indwells each believer of Christ and God Word as truth. Then our good works count for the gifts God will bestow upon us,or not, at the bema seat of Christ Jesus which preceeds the White Throne judgement by 1000 years. God sent Paul the Apostle to preach the gospel of salvation by the Grace of God in the Faith of Christ and began the body of Christ, bible believing Christians, saved souls, until the rapture preceeding the 7 year tribulations preceeding the return of Christ to be King of Israel and of all the earth for 1000 years.
The doctrine of salvation is clearly stated in the 4 Pauline epistles given to Paul, a saved sinner as we are, and endures to the end of the age of the body of Christ, the rapture, and the beginning of the next age, also known as the Kingdom age of Jesus Christ on the earth. Only the Apostle Paul was given the gospel of salvation for the Jew and Gentile Body of Christ, though God used the Apostle Peter in the house of Cornelius in Acts 10 and 11 to begin the age of grace.
I wish all who say they are Christians would beleive the Doctrine of Christ Jesus that they may be saved by grace through faith and then be able to do the good works God would have us to do by His Indwelling HOLY Spirit, the third person of the trinity of God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spitit. Good works can not save a person because no child of Adam and Eve is able to overcome the sin debt we owe God but by His grace throught the finished work of Christ Jesus only.
Ephesians 1
1. Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
2. Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4. According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6. To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8. Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9. Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10. That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11. In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12. That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14. Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
15. Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
16. Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
17. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
18. The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19. And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23. Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.