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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: pby

The Bible...
That IS an anti-Mormon book!
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Silly me

:)

And it’s THE anti-mormon Book

:)


1,701 posted on 03/01/2008 12:32:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: pby

Perhaps because it mainly happened in an anti-mormon writer’s mind? Yeah, that’s why!


1,702 posted on 03/01/2008 12:34:31 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man; Tennessee Nana
Spanish inquisition. Shall I google a search for mainstream murders? Every lynch mob I ever heard of in the South was mainly composed of Good Baptists. You need to get over it.

Translation (and better than the funeral papyri or Kinderhook kind), Tennessee Nana: Yeah...I know that our guys were bad guys and not following Mormon doctrine...but, but, but...there are other bad guys out there that did some really bad things! Thus, Mormonism is legitimate.

If this is a defense of your faith, Omm...you are in a world of hurt!

(Hint: It would have been better for you, and for your faith, to recognize the wrong involved in this event and lament it. Your constant defense of the indefensible has got you, and Mormonism, buried in a hole you can never climb out of.)

1,703 posted on 03/01/2008 12:39:31 PM PST by pby
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To: Tennessee Nana

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1,704 posted on 03/01/2008 12:39:46 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

Perhaps because it mainly happened in an anti-mormon writer’s mind? Yeah, that’s why!
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Yeah like the mind of God when He said

Thou shalt not commit adultery..Exodus 20:14


1,705 posted on 03/01/2008 12:40:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Old Mountain man; Elsie
I certainly get tired of not reading the garbage posts you are famous for.

I don't.

The posts are pithy, informative and significantly damaging to your so called defenses and arguments.

1,706 posted on 03/01/2008 12:41:32 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man

Perhaps because it mainly happened in an anti-mormon writer’s mind? Yeah, that’s why!
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God...the # 1 anti-mormon


1,707 posted on 03/01/2008 12:41:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Elsie
Not entirely sure but you perchance are likely to be a homo.

You showed up to post that?

1,708 posted on 03/01/2008 12:45:46 PM PST by pby
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To: pby; Invincibly Ignorant; Elsie

Elsie can’t be a homo. I’ve seen his picture, too hairy


1,709 posted on 03/01/2008 12:55:27 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Old Mountain man; Elsie; Godzilla; restornu
Blah blah blah

You need to really sharpen your skill as it relates to defending your faith.

This response, which is indicative of most of your very weak attempts and defense, are worthless and continue to make you and your faith look bad.

Like I said, earlier...I don't think that this is a hole that you can climb out of.

Please...someone take the shovel out of Omm's hand...he just can't stop digging!

1,710 posted on 03/01/2008 12:55:54 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man
Let’s see, you post half truth, twist and then obfuscate

You stated that before on this thread, Omm, and I asked you to provide the specific instance...You have not, yet, responded with specificity.

Please provide documentation of your claim.

1,711 posted on 03/01/2008 12:58:49 PM PST by pby
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To: Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; SkyPilot; Elsie; Godzilla; Zakeet; ...

I asked if you are an LDS because of the types of personal comments from Mormons (like the one in the ‘to’) which get left on the thread while other comments of a personal nature made by those opposed to the heresies in Mormonism are yanked.


1,712 posted on 03/01/2008 1:00:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
And it’s THE anti-mormon Book

Yes...that is even a better way to say it!

Thank you Tennessee, Nana.

1,713 posted on 03/01/2008 1:01:06 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man
Perhaps because it mainly happened in an anti-mormon writer’s mind? Yeah, that’s why!

Oh...Please tell, Omm.

Give us the specific details with documentation.

1,714 posted on 03/01/2008 1:02:36 PM PST by pby
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To: Religion Moderator

And I’m curious as to what standard you apply so that the post of this ‘to’ is not considered ‘getting pesonal’ ...


1,715 posted on 03/01/2008 1:04:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pby
You might find the following interesting in regards to your whole fraud ruse. If you’re an expert in these matters, I would certainly welcome your comments & refutation of the following article:

http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2006_Book_of_Abraham_201.html

Now really, you’re on a conservative site like the FR, & you take an article in the NYT as undisputed truth?

1,716 posted on 03/01/2008 1:06:08 PM PST by Reno232
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To: Religion Moderator

And this one is not considered ‘getting personal’? ... Now you see why I asked if you are perchance LDS.


1,717 posted on 03/01/2008 1:06:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pby; Elsie
The posts are pithy, informative and significantly damaging to your so called defenses and arguments.

And they are, in most cases, directly taken from mormon sources.

But, it's SO much more fun for some to sit back in their teflon suits and snipe with ad hominems.

1,718 posted on 03/01/2008 1:13:46 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Richardson: Billions for boondoggles; Not one red cent for Jenny Craig.)
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To: Reno232

The F.A.I.R. article you linked to, an astonishing piece of spin that! “It seems reasonable to conclude that Joseph may have believed that Abraham himself, with pen in hand, wrote the very words that he was translating.” AMAZING! Smith was not translating anything! He was fabricating something. The actual Egyptian writing was however later translated, and your peepstone false prophet was exposed for the fraud he always was. Amazing that so much effort is extended to whitewash such a black hearted man and the fables he produced.


1,719 posted on 03/01/2008 1:14:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Old Mountain man
Perhaps because it mainly happened in an anti-mormon writer’s mind? Yeah, that’s why!

And your (poor) defense of the Mormon faith just gets more silly.

restornu has already posted acceptance of the fact that Joseph Smith (37 years old) married 14 year old Helen Mar Kimball...Mormon historians have accepted this fact...Are you, now, claiming that Joseph's Smith's marriage to Helen Mar Kimball was a concoction of an anti-mormon's mind?

What are you saying by your post?

...because it is in response to Joseph Smith's marriage to Helen Mar Kimball.

(Notice, please...no twisting of words, here)

1,720 posted on 03/01/2008 1:15:36 PM PST by pby
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