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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: restornu
...I have read everything in its proper context.

You may have read everything in its proper context...

but it appears that you have not posted it in its proper context.

:)

1,041 posted on 02/24/2008 7:54:33 PM PST by pby
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To: restornu

OT: Heads up.

Batchelor coming on to name names re: Obama if interested.

KFI640

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/templates/logos/KFI-AM.swf


1,042 posted on 02/24/2008 7:54:51 PM PST by AliVeritas ( (To err is human, to screw up takes Berkeley 's City Council) Hope in God, not man.)
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To: restornu
Oh you are having a good time...

I would be having a better time if you posted what salvation is and how to obtain it :(

1,043 posted on 02/24/2008 7:56:54 PM PST by pby
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To: restornu
Tell that to Abraham and Jacob!

Why, like Smith, did they prophesy falsely?

1,044 posted on 02/24/2008 7:59:48 PM PST by pby
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To: pby; Old Mountain man
PAGING OLD MOUNTAIN MAN!!

Posts 1033 and 1037 need your response.

(And, don't worry...I am not even asking you to answer what salvation is and how to obtain it!)

1,045 posted on 02/24/2008 8:03:01 PM PST by pby
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To: restornu

Do you know what Jesus wrote in the sand that made the Pharisees drop their rocks and walk away?


1,046 posted on 02/24/2008 8:05:14 PM PST by pby
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To: pby; Zakeet
It was allegedly commanded by God but had to be kept secret, especially from Emma.

2 Samuel 12:

1 The LORD sent Nathan to David. When he came to him, he said, "There were two men in a certain town, one rich and the other poor. 2 The rich man had a very large number of sheep and cattle, 3 but the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb he had bought. He raised it, and it grew up with him and his children. It shared his food, drank from his cup and even slept in his arms. It was like a daughter to him.

4 "Now a traveler came to the rich man, but the rich man refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare a meal for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the ewe lamb that belonged to the poor man and prepared it for the one who had come to him."

5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, "As surely as the LORD lives, the man who did this deserves to die! 6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity."

7 Then Nathan said to David, "You are the man! This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. I gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the LORD by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. 10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.'

11 "This is what the LORD says: 'Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity upon you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.'"

Deuteronomy 13:

1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) [i.e., committnig idolatry....which was BREAKING one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS] "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

Deuteronomy 27:15

"Cursed is the man who carves an image or casts an idol—a thing detestable to the LORD, the work of the craftsman's hands—and sets it up in secret." Then all the people shall say, "Amen!"

Deuteronomy 27:24

"Cursed is the man who kills his neighbor secretly." Then all the people shall say, "Amen!"

Deuteronomy 29:29

The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.


1,047 posted on 02/24/2008 8:05:34 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: restornu
Tell that to Abraham and Jacob!

Abraham and Jacob didn't call themselves CHRISTIANS!

But you excuse ADULTERY....just as Joseph Smith did, and he called himself a prophet of God.

True prophets of God do not break God's commandments nor tell others to BREAK GOD'S LAWS.

1,048 posted on 02/24/2008 8:08:52 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: pby

lolol!


1,049 posted on 02/24/2008 8:14:16 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: AliVeritas

http://www.kfi640.com/main.html


1,050 posted on 02/24/2008 8:24:21 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: AliVeritas

Thanks I am listening!


1,051 posted on 02/24/2008 8:25:41 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: AliVeritas

They are talking up Mars right now. What was said regarding Barry O?


1,052 posted on 02/24/2008 9:46:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Zakeet
"ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives."

the whole crux of the issue right there....these sects are nothing more than body snatching for the sexual desires of fat, balding middle age men....

I do find it striking that these "lost boys" are given more victimhood status than the young, young girls left behind to face this cult of perverts alone...or so it seems..

1,053 posted on 02/24/2008 10:41:20 PM PST by cherry
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To: Saundra Duffy

~”I just do not understand why some posters are seemingly obsessed with trying to put down my beliefs and my Church.”~

There are a few among our detractors who are genuinely concerned about our eternal well-being. Not many. Among the rest, the reasons I’ve identified include the following (in no particular order):
- An ecclesiastical form of penis envy.
- The drive to convince themselves it is not true (mostly ex-Mormons who have received a testimony, but who have decided to fight against it - they find that their testimony never completely goes away and that the soul is an annoyingly persistent sort of critter).
- A vested religious interest in disproving it (pastors, ministers, etc. - a substantial number of the detractors we see on FR are of this sort. They just hate the fact that we keep stealing the best people - like you - from their flocks. This is how they act out).
- People who make money from the anti-Mormonism cottage industry.

It was all prophesied. Lying in wait to deceive, etc. Water off a duck’s back. For me, I’m just glad to have my beliefs challenged and thereby strengthened. Imagine - the early Saints only had the Spirit to help them know it was true. We’ve got the advantage of also having the cantankerous!


1,054 posted on 02/24/2008 11:24:29 PM PST by tantiboh (Anti-Mormons: Taking the Christ out of Christian. Doing it faster with Cut and Paste!)
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To: tantiboh
- An ecclesiastical form of penis envy.

ROTFLMAO!!!

You know, you'd think that the folks here who claim to know the scriptures would remember this one:

2Ti 2:14ff Remind them of this, and charge them before the Lord to avoid disputing about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. Avoid such godless chatter, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will eat its way like gangrene.

If they were really acting scripturally, they'd act as Jesus commanded his disciples in Mark 6. But arguing is so much fun....

I feel for you guys. You all have to take it as much, if not more, than we Catholics do...

1,055 posted on 02/25/2008 3:43:46 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: nicmarlo
After having now fully read this last post of yours, I agree with it all, most especially the above, concerning those who have never heard the Gospel.

Oh you foolish Protestants!!

Don't you KNOW that without OUR intervention; many of the souls that have FAILED to hear the Message, will get another chance when we Faithful (and worthy) LDS Organization members enter the Temple to be baptised for the dead?

Our Living Prophet® has brought this lost (stolen; more likely!!!) teaching BACK to earth (with full Authority, I might add) so that the ONLY 'church' that NOW has this Authority, is functioning in a neighborhood near you!

--MormonDude(When might a couple of our nice, cleancut young folks [who BTW know more about GOD, and Salvation than you do] stop by your home and talk with you?)

1,056 posted on 02/25/2008 4:45:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo

At your service!

(See what happens when church intervenes for me!)


1,057 posted on 02/25/2008 4:46:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Most of those who leave the Church it is because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage...

SOMEone is JUDGING (or listening in on Talks with the Stake President!)

1,058 posted on 02/25/2008 4:49:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 
... or to have sex out of marriage...
 
These guys found a way to do it withIN marrage!!!!
 
     
                          Smith                                                                        Young                                                                         Taylor                                                            Pratt
 
 
   
                      Snow                                                           Kimball                                    Woodruff
 
 



 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.




 
It's just sad that they paid NO attention to the BIBLE or to the Restorative power  of the Book of Mormon!
 



 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 
 

1,059 posted on 02/25/2008 4:53:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Definitely a number six on the chart don’tchaknow.

I was thinking about copying HIS response to use for Resty's The Church tries very hard to be good neighbors and that includes those who left. in #955.

I need SOMETHING that indicates a massive EYE ROLL!

1,060 posted on 02/25/2008 4:56:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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