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Haven't Anti-Mormons Completely Destroyed the Credibility of Mormonism?
jefflindsay.com ^ | Nov. 5, 2006 | Jeff Lindsay

Posted on 02/16/2008 3:13:15 PM PST by restornu

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To: Old Mountain man; restornu
Well, if they spawned you, there might well be no activity there. I hear that intelligence is genetically related.

As fourth generation Mormons, they would probably be related to you and your parents. And since they are dead, then (like you and resty) they would likely have no discernible brain activity.

981 posted on 02/19/2008 11:05:50 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Thank you SD it looks like as time goes by it will escallate more and as the prophet said more work can be done within our 4 walls than wasting time here

D&C 95: 6, 12
6 They who are not chosen have sinned a very grievous sin, in that they are walking in darkness at noon-day.
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12 If you keep not my commandments, the love of the Father shall not continue with you, therefore you shall walk in darkness.


982 posted on 02/19/2008 11:23:22 PM PST by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts! Will I accept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name?)
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To: nicmarlo
and yet, the New Testament promises us true teachers and prophets.

to you, where are they?

983 posted on 02/19/2008 11:23:48 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: presently no screen name

What would you like to hear?

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Someone who cares and respects us enough to teach without using language that is designed to make us not want to listen.


984 posted on 02/19/2008 11:39:15 PM PST by fproy2222 (Are you trying to convert us to Christ, as you understand Him, or just to be another nasty poster?)
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To: restornu

“It is obvious none of you and I mean none of you have been touch by the Holy Spirit yet!”
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The Holy Spirit doesnt “touch” and come on and off like He did the prophets in the Old testament...

now the Holy Spirit indwells...Romans 8:9
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“One is aware when that happens, there is man’s good behavior and than there is the behavior when one is allowing the Holy Spirit to leads one tongue.”
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Man’s so-called “good behavior” doesnt move God..Faith does
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“Many just want to use the Bible is their only source of back up.”
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The Christians chose to read and believe the only book that’s true...with the only true accounting of Jesus
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“And for many these will go over many of your heads, many will just pretend this was never pointed out, and continue saying, but the Bible says!”
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If the Bible “says” it then it is true whether or not you believe it...

I count all things but loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Jesus Christ my Lord...Philippians 3:8

For I am determined not to know any thing amongst you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified...1 Corinthians 2:2


985 posted on 02/20/2008 3:30:30 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

And those who do know how to use the Lord’s Bible, many of you will try to belittle and scoff at, thinking this will hide your inability and reveal that so many of you here are clueless as how to work with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ!
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I take it you do know “how to work with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ!”

So spill...

Waiting

(Looks at watch)

(Hours go by)

(Days)

((((CRICKETS))))


986 posted on 02/20/2008 3:34:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: nicmarlo

the video entitled “Lying for the Lord” [Mormon Robert Millet lecturing to an audience preparing for a mission, where he says, among other things, “Never provide meat when milk will do”.]
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And yet Paul admonished the believers about falling back to milk when they were to practice the meat...

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you AGAIN which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat, For everyone that uses milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them who are of full age. even those who by use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil....Hebrews 5:12-14

Well, that leaves out those 19 year old mormon missionaries on bikes...no meat there...

AQctually the “meat” of the Gospel of jesus Christ is this..

Jesus died for your sin s and my sins and you needed a savior so that Gos would not punish you for your sins, and I did to...

Jesus came in the flesh, died on the cross at calvary, shed His precious blood, declared “it is finihed” rose and gain the 3rd day...

Now since He died in your place, my place, we can be born again/saved and go to heaven to live with Him and worship him forever...

Rather than go to Hell forever..

To be born again/saved means to admit you are a sinner and asked god to forgive you, ask Jesus to save you, and do that believing...

Jesus will save you...not Mohammad..not Joseph Smith..


987 posted on 02/20/2008 3:50:17 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu; P-Marlowe; Religion Moderator

Does this mean your parents are not talking to you!
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My parents are dead also...

Those remarks of yours are nasty and uncalled for...

Thanks to my parents’ love of God and their testimony of the salvation of Jesus Christ, I learned about Jesus at an early age..

I will ever be grateful to them for being a Godly example in front of my young life and I am thankful to God for His mercy...


988 posted on 02/20/2008 3:55:38 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy

***I wish they’d go pick on the Mennonites for a while.****

Here is a start!
A local Christian congregation leased a church building from the Mennonites. Aftr 9-11 the church wanted to have a “Support the Troops” day. The pacifist Mennonites pulled the lease. It is now a day care center.


989 posted on 02/20/2008 4:47:49 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: nicmarlo
 
There also another Scripture about the mark of the beast...
 
Here ya go!!
 
THESE are the Scriptures that mention Anti-Christ:

NIV 1 John 2:18-29
 18.  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
 19.  They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
 20.  But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
 21.  I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
 22.  Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.
 23.  No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
 24.  See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
 25.  And this is what he promised us--even eternal life.
 26.  I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
 27.  As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
 28.  And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.
 29.  If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.
 

NIV 1 John 4:1-3
 1.  Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
 2.  This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
 3.  but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 

NIV 2 John 1:7
   Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
 


Now THESE are about the BEAST:



NIV Revelation 13:1-18
 1.  And the dragon  stood on the shore of the sea.   And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
 2.  The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 
 3.  One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast .
 4.  Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"
 5.  The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months.
 6.  He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.
 7.  He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.
 8.  All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
 9.  He who has an ear, let him hear.
 10.  If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
 11.  Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.
 12.  He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.
 13.  And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.
 14.  Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
 15.  He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
 16.  He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
 17.  so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
 18.  This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
 
And THOSE are ALL the Scriptures pertaining to 666.  (That I know of)


990 posted on 02/20/2008 4:54:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Joseph was a very humble servant...

Sure he was!

991 posted on 02/20/2008 4:55:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu; Religion Moderator
PERSONAL ATTACK ALERT! Too much over the top, restornu.

Oh, I didn't see it as so bad.

If these guys feel a need to try and press certain buttons; well, ok then.


I really NEED a straightman to feed me good lines!

;^)

992 posted on 02/20/2008 4:58:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

I miss JAG!


993 posted on 02/20/2008 4:58:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I really NEED a straightman to feed me good lines!”

The jokes keep on writing themselves

LOL


994 posted on 02/20/2008 5:02:28 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Yes and now a word from the biggest catty!:)



Genus Vulpes
foxes

Classification: Order Carnivora (carnivores) > Family Canidae (dogs, foxes) > Genus Vulpes

 

You are wrong, Resty.   CATS are a different creature.

 

Genus Felis
small cats

Classification: Order Carnivora (carnivores) > Family Felidae (cats) > Genus Felis

995 posted on 02/20/2008 5:04:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Then why are you all so busy baptizing those that are already BAPTIZED in the name of Jesus Christ?


996 posted on 02/20/2008 5:05:43 AM PST by bonfire
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To: restornu
This project is moving quite nicely across the earth!

 

NIV Revelation 13:1-18
 1.  And the dragon  stood on the shore of the sea.   And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
 2.  The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 
 3.  One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast .
 4.  Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"
 5.  The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months.
 6.  He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.
 7.  He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.
 8.  All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
 9.  He who has an ear, let him hear.
 10.  If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
 11.  Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.
 12.  He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.
 13.  And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.
 14.  Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
 15.  He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
 16.  He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
 17.  so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
 18.  This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
 
 


997 posted on 02/20/2008 5:12:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Luke 13:33
Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the [day] following: for it CANNOT BE that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
 

Details...
 
 
 
 
KJV Luke 13:33
  Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
 

ASV Luke 13:33
  Nevertheless I must go on my way to-day and to-morrow and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
 

NIV Luke 13:33
 In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day--for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!
 
Pick ANY 'translation'!
 
Even the Blessed JST had no CHANGES.
 

                    Luke
 
 
Luke 1: 8 Zacharias, John the Baptist’s father, was performing priesthood duties. (compare Luke 1: 8)
Luke 2: 46 The doctors in the temple were listening to Jesus and asking him questions. (compare Luke 2: 46)
Luke 3: 4-11 Christ shall come to fulfill prophecy, take away sins, bring salvation, and be a light, and he shall come in the day of power and the fulness of times. (compare Luke 3: 4-6)
Luke 3: 19-20
Luke 6: 29-30
Luke 9: 24-25
Luke 11: 53 The fulness of the scriptures is the key of knowledge. (compare Luke 11: 52)
Luke 12: 9-12 Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven. (compare Luke 12: 9-10)
Luke 12: 41-57 We must always be ready for the coming of the Lord. (compare Luke 12: 38-48)
Luke 14: 35-37
Luke 16: 16-23 Jesus provided the context for the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. (compare Luke 16: 16-18)
Luke 17: 21 The kingdom of God has already come. (compare Luke 17: 20-21)
Luke 17: 36-40 Jesus explained a parable regarding the gathering of the righteous. (compare Luke 17: 37)
Luke 21: 24-26 Jesus explained the signs of his coming. (compare Luke 21: 24-26)
Luke 21: 32 All will be fulfilled when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (compare Luke 21: 32)
Luke 23: 35 Jesus asked forgiveness for the Roman soldiers who crucified him. (compare Luke 23: 34)
Luke 24: 2-4

998 posted on 02/20/2008 5:31:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; restornu

This project is moving quite nicely across the earth!
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A few hundred 19 year old mormon missionaries go on 2 year “missions” for 2 years anbd add 2-4 “converts”

The mormons claim 6,000,000 members in the US and 13,000,000 around the world..

As the mormons are encouraged to had large families and are proud to do so...many of their increase are from their own added children...

Joseph Smith had 30 “wives”

If only 15 of them had his children at 2 a piece = 30

A generation use to be measured at 30 years and so since 150/30 years have gone by since Joseph Smith tried to shoot his way out of jail...

By adding a spouse each succeeding generation and two chidren each through 1850, 1880, 1910, 1940 1970, 2000 the mormons can account for more than 1,000,000 new members just from Joseph Smith’s progeny...

And since the mormons have large families...more than just the two children each couple that I accounted for each generation...

See, no new “converts” as such...

just new babies carried on the Cradle Rolls...


999 posted on 02/20/2008 5:33:50 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yhello ???


1,000 posted on 02/20/2008 5:34:10 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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