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Cardinal urged Blair not to reveal conversion
Telegraph ^ | November 25, 2007 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

Posted on 11/25/2007 3:19:55 PM PST by NYer

Tony Blair was on the brink of announcing his conversion to Catholicism on a visit to the Pope until a last-ditch intervention by Britain's Roman Catholic leader.

 
Tony Blair and Pope Benedict XVI
Tony Blair at an audience with Pope Benedict XVI

The former Prime Minister was planning to make the historic statement on a trip to the Vatican, but was persuaded not to at the 11th hour.

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the Archbishop of Westminster, advised Mr Blair that it would be unwise and inappropriate to use such a high-profile occasion for such an important private event, particularly coming just days before he was due to leave Downing Street.

He was preparing to make a declaration about his faith as one of his last acts as Prime Minister. But the cardinal recommended that it would be better to wait until he had left Number 10, amid fears that the announcement could cause a political storm.

It is understood that he has received instruction from Fr John Walsh, a chaplain at RAF Cranwell, and Fr Mark O'Toole, the cardinal's secretary, in preparation for conversion.

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He had already told aides that he intended to convert to Catholicism and was believed to have been planning the visit to the Vatican in June as the perfect opportunity to announce the momentous step of becoming the country's first Catholic Prime Minister.

However, The Sunday Telegraph has also learnt that he has since put his plans on hold, despite leaving office, because of fears that it could jeopardise his work as an envoy in the Middle East.

There had been speculation that he would formalise his Catholic beliefs in the next few days, but it is understood that it is likely that he will not convert until next year, probably at Easter.

A source close to Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor said the Archbishop had advised Mr Blair that any statement on his conversion "should be done reflectively".

"There was a question over whether this was the time to make such an announcement," the source said. "The cardinal's concern for Mr Blair was pastoral and he told him not to do it then, but to wait for a more private occasion."

The cardinal was called to the papal study in the Vatican for a private meeting with Pope Benedict XVI and the former Prime Minister, which lasted around 10 minutes.

"For him to be invited to the audience [with the Pope] is significant," said a Vatican insider. "It is unusual for a representative of a local Church to be present at an audience between the Pope and a prime minister."

After the meeting - during which Mr Blair gave the pontiff a frame containing three photographs of Cardinal John Henry Newman, the most famous of English converts to Rome - the cardinal hosted a lunch for him at the English college.

Mr Blair's desire to become a Catholic has been an open secret for years, but doing this while still at Number 10 would have been controversial as some lawyers believe that the 1829 Emancipation Act, which gave Roman Catholics full civil rights, may still prevent a Catholic from becoming prime minister.

Clauses in the Act state that no Catholic adviser to the monarch can hold civil or military office. Also, it would have caused a potential conflict with his role in choosing Church of England bishops.

Despite being asked by Cardinal Basil Hume, the previous Archbishop of Westminster, to desist from receiving Communion because he has not converted to Catholicism, Mr Blair received Communion from Fr Michael Seed while he was at Downing Street and from Fr Timothy Russ and Fr Walsh at Chequers.

He also attended Mass at Westminster Cathedral with his family, who are all Catholics - his two sons attended the London Oratory, a Catholic school.

Areas that he must cover before he can become a Catholic include the Creed, prayer life and the Church's doctrine.

It is believed that he will be received into the Church by the cardinal. During the service he will recite the Nicene Creed and make a formal declaration that reads: "I believe and profess all that the Holy Catholic Church believes, teaches and proclaims to be revealed by God."

Mr Blair was initially introduced to religion by Peter Thomson, an Australian priest, during his time at Oxford University where he was prepared for confirmation by Graham Dow, an evangelical Anglican cleric who is now Bishop of Carlisle.

More recently he has developed a friendship with Prof Hans Kung, the respected theologian.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Worship
KEYWORDS: anglican; blair; blairandgod; conversion; pope; tonyblair
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1 posted on 11/25/2007 3:19:58 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

how cool.


2 posted on 11/25/2007 3:21:55 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: NYer
More recently he has developed a friendship with Prof Hans Kung, the respected theologian.

Oh dear. Respected by dissidents, that is...

3 posted on 11/25/2007 3:24:07 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
More recently he has developed a friendship with Prof Hans Kung, the respected theologian.

Huh? Hans Kung is a dissident Catholic.

4 posted on 11/25/2007 3:24:37 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

But isn’t he also pro-abort and pro-homo?


5 posted on 11/25/2007 3:25:41 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
More recently he has developed a friendship with Prof Hans Kung, the respected theologian.

Huh? Hans Kung is a dissident Catholic.

6 posted on 11/25/2007 3:26:15 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
Areas that he must cover before he can become a Catholic include the Creed, prayer life and the Church's doctrine.

I would think a few years spent studying the Church's moral teaching would also do him a world of good. Right now, he'd fit in with the all the "Catholics" in the Democrat party.

7 posted on 11/25/2007 3:26:25 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: NYer

Show of hands...how many would love to read his autobiography on just such a spiritual journey?

My hand is up...first.


8 posted on 11/25/2007 3:27:32 PM PST by SaltyJoe (Lenin legalized abortion. Afterward, every life was fair game for Death.)
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman
But isn’t he also pro-abort and pro-homo?

That might explain the Cardinal advising him to chill out for a while...until he gets his bearings. Otherwise he'd have thrown to the lions, as it were...

9 posted on 11/25/2007 3:28:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: Unam Sanctam

Dissenter is not the term I would use for Kueng.


10 posted on 11/25/2007 3:43:23 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer

What? Blair didn't wear his purple tie when visiting the Pope? The prime minister must have forgotten it back at Number 10.

11 posted on 11/25/2007 3:43:36 PM PST by stripes1776
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12 posted on 11/25/2007 4:09:44 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Despite being asked by Cardinal Basil Hume, the previous Archbishop of Westminster, to desist from receiving Communion because he has not converted to Catholicism, Mr Blair received Communion from Fr Michael Seed while he was at Downing Street and from Fr Timothy Russ and Fr Walsh at Chequers.

I thought CoE is in communion with the Catholic Church?

13 posted on 11/25/2007 4:10:33 PM PST by paudio
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It is not and never has been except for the brief period during the reign of Queen Mary that the Church was re-united with Rome.


14 posted on 11/25/2007 4:17:05 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: SaltyJoe

Second!


15 posted on 11/25/2007 5:02:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: paudio

**I thought CoE is in communion with the Catholic Church?**

Where are you getting that information? Source??


16 posted on 11/25/2007 5:03:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the Archbishop of Westminster,

He's another one who can't retire fast enough, IMHO, and has probably blocked Anglicans from coming into the Church for decades now.

He has made a few good anti-cloning statements lately, but on the whole, he's terrible.

17 posted on 11/25/2007 5:07:30 PM PST by livius
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To: the invisib1e hand
You know a man by his friends and Kung was invited to dinner by an old friend and colleague shortly after the friend got a new job. Private dinner and long discussion yet. Good friends don’t always agree on everything, but they remain friends.
18 posted on 11/25/2007 5:12:17 PM PST by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: the invisib1e hand
You know a man by his friends and Kung was invited to dinner by an old friend and colleague shortly after the friend got a new job. Private dinner and long discussion yet. Good friends don’t always agree on everything, but they remain friends.
19 posted on 11/25/2007 5:13:43 PM PST by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: VidMihi

ahh. I’m glad you repeated it. It made more sense the second time. ;)


20 posted on 11/25/2007 5:15:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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