I see how you are twisting things here. The high priest was alive and had two functioning eyes when Jesus spoke to him and said, "you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven". But you are free to reinterpret His words and apply them symbolically/spiritually to the final white throne judgment, which is not a cloud coming at all, and has no such language.
BTW, the millions of unbelieving Jews who died in Jerusalem during the "days of vengeance" did not consider Rome a paper tiger. Nor did the disciples who fled when they saw the abomination of desolation (Jerusalem surrounded by armies).
***BTW, the millions of unbelieving Jews who died in Jerusalem during the “days of vengeance” did not consider Rome a paper tiger. Nor did the disciples who fled when they saw the abomination of desolation (Jerusalem surrounded by armies).***
Neither did any of the Jews who felt any of the armies that the Lord sent against her. I have noticed that the Dispensationalists here focus an inordinate amount of attention to what all agree are the more difficult prophecies and tend to ignore what are the absurdely simple ones.
I notice that, after someone cited Matthew 13 and I pointed out some glaring contradictions with Dispensational eschatology, not a further word was said. I also notice that the “day” of the Lord suddenly had to literally become exactly 1000 years to make 2 Peter 3 fit.
“BTW, the millions of unbelieving Jews who died in Jerusalem during the “days of vengeance” did not consider Rome a paper tiger. Nor did the disciples who fled when they saw the abomination of desolation (Jerusalem surrounded by armies)”
“I now take it you are affirming that the cloud imagery is appropriate for AD70,”
There was no “clouds of heaven” at the destruction of Jerusalem in fulfillment of what Jesus told the high priest. It is a preterist fantasy to avoid the obvious scripture of the last days. Now you are saying Jesus did not mean what he said to the high priest, he was only speaking figuratively about the high priest actually seeing him.
Did the high priest see Jesus in 70 A.D.? Did he or any person alive in 70 A.D. know that what they saw in the Roman army was Jesus exercising judgment on unbelieving Israel? There is no scriptural testimony to that event by any apostle or writer. No on says Jesus came again at that time.
“the final white throne judgment, which is not a cloud coming at all, and has no such language.”
Absolutely amazing. Here, let me repeat what you have previously written, “Jesus’ use of the phrase “coming in clouds” comes from the OT and is a symbolic phrase that can be used to describe God’s coming in temporal judgment against a nation”. Why would you need the metaphor when you are describing the actual seat of power and judgment.
If the second coming was fulfilled in 70 AD why hasn't Satan been bound?
Oh my -- another new definition for the "abomination". So now the "holy place" [Mt 24:15] is the hills and valleys outside of Jerusalem, not Jerusalem or the temple??? and the Roman armies are "the abomination" and not Cesar Nero???
Don't you just love that preterist "exegesis" or whatever they call it???