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It seems that Chip and others now want to claim we are the anti-Christ, because we believe the plain truth of scripture

So believing that Jesus came in 70 AD, although not in the flesh, but in some other sense, is "the plain truth of scripture"??? Is that what you are confessing here??? that Jesus did have a coming after his physical coming, but not like his physical coming. This other coming was ethereal, not physical, not in the flesh.

Well John's epistle is also the plain truth of scripture and he calls your preteristic Gnosticism just exactly what it is. Your problem is not with me but with the "plain truth of scripture".

And BTW, I remember just a few posts back your denying that you know what a Preterist believes and now you are including yourself squarely in the camp of Preterism. What happened??? did you find a few more petals on that dandelion of yours: "I'm a preterist.. I'm a preterist not .. I'm a preterist ..." If the flower fits, wear it.

I have to admit, when I hear somebody say "well the Bible PLAINLY teaches..." I immediately brace myself for some whacked out statement. And it doesn't matter who it's from.

Usually, it's not too whacky, but I am just about sick of that phrase.