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To: MHGinTN; Saundra Duffy; Elsie
Sandra Duffy Said: Jesus Christ is my Savior, too. He died for me and I love Him. There is only one Jesus Christ, our Savior.

But thank you for fulfilling prophesy.
MHGinTN Said: Prove it, Mormon.

And I said: ROTFLOL!

OK, the proof comes in three parts.
  1. Here is the Prophecy:
    Joseph Smith History
    33 He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people.
    OK, since that was written and published long before you said what you said, it was prophetic, and you just fulfilled it (in part)

    Since we are saying Good things about Joseph Smith, we are fulfilling it in part.

  2. Confession of Jesus means you are his.
    1 John. 4: 15
    15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
    Saundra Duffy just confessed her belief in Jesus Christ, so John says she is his (that makes her a Christian).

    I too confess (because it is true) that I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord, my God, my Savior, his is the only name under heaven where I can find salvation through his atoning grace. I testify that you to can be saved if you will give up your pride and worldly cares and fallow him who is mighty to save.

  3. MHGinTN you have in many places and at sundry times denied that Mormons are Christians, there is a scripture that was given specifically for those who would judge others.
    Matthew 7:1-5
    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
    5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
    You have no right to judge another's Christianity there is only one Judge in Israel who will judge that, and you are not him.
MHG, earlier, I said you were promoting using "Young's Literal translation of the Greek" and you did not even bother to answer (as you seem never to do with anything that is inconvenient). By quoting from it, and stating that it is more accurate than the KJV, are you not promoting it? I believe you are, thus my statement stands. If you want to prove me wrong, either start quoting from the KJV, or at least state that it does not matter which you quote from.

You seem to have a problem with many of the "tenets" of Mormonism, even when they are exactly Biblical, consider the following passage. John 10:34-38
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
OR, since you prefer Young's translation...
34 Jesus answered them, `Is it not having been written in your law: I said, ye are gods?
35 if them he did call gods unto whom the word of God came, (and the Writing is not able to be broken,)
36 of him whom the Father did sanctify, and send to the world, do ye say -- Thou speakest evil, because I said, Son of God I am?
37 if I do not the works of my Father, do not believe me;
38 and if I do, even if me ye may not believe, the works believe, that ye may know and may believe that in me [is] the Father, and I in Him.'
So please explain why God called people Gods? (the Writing is not able to be broken)
Explain why I can say I am my father's son without meaning that I am his only son.
(We do NOT teach that we were Begotten by him after the manner of the flesh, for that is a distinction belonging only to Jesus Christ, Our savior.)
Why do you speak evil concerning me specifically? Of a truth, while I may be mistaken at times, I have never lied here.
Why do you not believe the Works we do that ye may know and believe that in us is the father and the father is in us, for we are following his word to the best of our ability.

You show us such rancor and animosity, behaving in ways that would embarrass me to behave yet setting yourself up as more righteous person because of your studies. I hate to say it, but I cannot escape the comparison to the phrases, for they were proud of their much learning too. Prove me wrong with a humble reply if you can.

P.S. JFTR Saundra Duffy and I are one in Christ and in no other way.
647 posted on 10/10/2007 9:26:21 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; FastCoyote; aMorePerfectUnion; Osage Orange
Here's the 'nice Mormonism Apologist' methodology at work. I post to Saundra to prove her assertion, "But thank you for fulfilling prophesy." The usual suspect then takes 'Prove it, Mormon' and adds the previous sentence to it in order to mischaracterize and post the #2 lecture in its post to me. And the deceiver wonders why I don't post to it or ping it!

Do get a good giggle from the 'ye are gods' use ... and remember the context in which that was offered in the Old Testament to describe disobedient, bad folks among the Hebrews.

And this little lie is another 'nice Mormonism Apologist tactic': "MHGinTN you have in many places and at sundry times denied that Mormons are Christians." I have meticulously opposed Mormonism and stated repeatedly that I do not judge whether individuals are Christian or not who are in the Mormonism cult. In fact, I've even written posts where I state that there are absolutely Christians in the cult, but they are Christians not because of Mormonism but in spite of it. Bwahahahaha, what a maroon. If his posts didn't seek to stand up so much deception they would be thoroughly amusing.

648 posted on 10/10/2007 10:10:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: DelphiUser
You have no right to judge another's Christianity there is only one Judge in Israel who will judge that, and you are not him.

 
And just what gives YOU the right to judge whether I can judge or not?
 
 
 
I always find it interesting that those who do not want their practices and policies examined tend to trot out those few verses; hoping to stifle any more questions.
 
Sorry folks, but there is MORE to be said in the matter of 'judging'.
 


Luke 7:43
   Simon replied, "I suppose the one who had the bigger debt canceled."   "You have judged correctly," Jesus said.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13
 12.  What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
 13.  God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."
 

1 Corinthians 6:2-5
 2.  Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
 3.  Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
 4.  Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church!
 5.  I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?

652 posted on 10/10/2007 3:06:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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