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Posted on 09/24/2007 8:16:13 AM PDT by colorcountry
Being excommunicated for apostasy by the Mormon church is one thing, but Lyndon Lamborn is livid that his stake president has ordered bishops in eight Mesa wards to take the rare step of announcing disciplinary action against him to church members today. "I thought if he could go public, so can I," said Lamborn, a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who said his research into church history gave him "thousands of reasons the church can't be what it claims to be."
Stake President R. James Molina acknowledged Friday he intends to have Lamborn's excommunication announced to the wards at men's priesthood meetings and womens Relief Society gatherings, even with Lamborn now taking his case public. Molina, as well as officials at church headquarters in Salt Lake City, call such a public warning about an ousted member extremely rare. They say, however, church members must be protected from what discordant ex-followers may say to damage the church...................
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To: DelphiUser
I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the orthodox Christians out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed?
GBood Question!! I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the LDS organization members out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed? |
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To: Elsie
Actually, I have. That is one of the reasons I am still happily in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. 754 posted on 10/17/2007 5:05:48 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
Actually, I have. That is one of the reasons I am still happily in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Good; for perhaps you can show me just what is so ABOMINABLE about that creed: The Nicene Creed
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To: Elsie
It appears to be some sort of document defining the nature of God in language that is not clear nor is it intended to be clear. 766 posted on 10/18/2007 10:21:51 AM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Elsie
Why don’t you read it yourself, as well as its associated creeds, and pray about them. They are NOT scripture, under your definition. 784 posted on 10/18/2007 8:02:23 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Elsie
You are so knowledgeable, go ahead and cite it. 819 posted on 10/19/2007 2:13:02 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
You are so knowledgeable, go ahead and cite it.
It is obvious, from your non-response, that you don't want to tackle this theological question. That's ok; I'll not press you any farther, but know this: if you are going to challenge others on THEIR posting of Scripture - you've now left a trail showing your ignorance of it. |
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To: Elsie
YOU were citing a creed to which I do not subscribe, and then berating both me and the founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. You never cited any scripture in support of this “creed”. It is your “creed”, not mine. Defend it if you can! 826 posted on 10/19/2007 10:05:39 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
YOU were citing a creed to which I do not subscribe, and then berating both me and the founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Sorry, OMM; that's not how it works. You see, you are defending Mormonism. I am showing the FOUNDATION of it all: that Joseph Smith claims that God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to him and said, "Their creeds are an ABOMINATION to me!" That statement is what the entire LDS organization is built upon. ANYONE who tries to support and defend that organization should know, at the very least, WHY it came into existance. Therefore, I ask you one more time... What is so ABOMINABLE in that creed?? |
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To: Elsie
For me, it is the attitude of those that wave around a false creed and demand that I subscribe to it to be a Christian. Thou hypocrite! 838 posted on 10/21/2007 8:34:25 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
For me, it is the attitude of those that wave around a false creed and demand that I subscribe to it to be a Christian. Thou hypocrite!
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To: Old Mountain man
being of one substance with the Father;
Where does it say that in the scriptures? Will THIS suffice? John 10:31-33 31. Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32. but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" 33. "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." |
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To: Elsie
So your creed is based upon Jesus’ enemies claims? Where did JESUS ever claim to be GOD? 850 posted on 10/22/2007 3:20:01 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Elsie
I doubt very much that he would lie about that. I do not doubt that you cannot find sufficient scriptural backup for your creed so that you must resort to childish name calling. Go and consult with your preacher, he may give you some better names to call us. Go attack islam or something else you don’t know about. 856 posted on 10/22/2007 4:33:14 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
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To: Old Mountain man
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To: Old Mountain man
I do not doubt that you cannot find sufficient scriptural backup for your creed ...
I gave you Scripture; just like you asked. You dismissed them as irrelevant. Jewish religious scholars; whose life was possible becaused they knew the law inside and out, knew EXACTLY what Jesus was claiming. In your superior knowledge, you claim they didn't know what they were talking about. |
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To: Elsie
They lied. 863 posted on 10/22/2007 4:48:26 PM CDT by Old Mountain man
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To: Elsie
How many times do you have to be told? Are you having as much trouble reading my posts as you do the scriptures? 864 posted on 10/22/2007 4:50:10 PM CDT by Old Mountain man |
About as many times as you're asked: what is wrong with the creed?
Should I ask instead: "What is so ABOMINABLE with being of one substance with the Father?"
Because it is not true.
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