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To: kosta50
And Christ answered that, so that there is no confusion. Are we now placing God over Christ?

No.

The fact is that Protestants allow divorce in clear contradiction of the scripture defined by Christ.

Tho Catholic & Protestant teachings are different in what happens after there's been a divorce, percentages of those divorcing are statistically very close. "They do it too" is a poor argument, because it discounts the reality that divorce is a sin for both.

Personally, I've become a different person than the one I was before my divorce. I would call it my turning point, the moment that I realized I would be better off if I stopped fighting against God.

We are Christians, last time I checked. Not Jews.

Right, but Jesus cited Moses in His teaching on the issue. The purpose of the Law of Moses is not to produce good moral behavior (it is, but more important is what goes on deeper within us), but to call all of us to understand our need for God's mercy and forgiveness.

So, whenever someone spouts how the Catholics/Orthodox do not follow the scirpture byt invent their own rules, let's think of the divorce and which groups ignore the Gospels on that subject.

Catholic Church doesn't believe it has the power to grant divorce. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought EO churches grant divorces & allow remarriage after, but there's a limit on how many someone can have.

8,463 posted on 10/06/2007 7:53:39 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Jesus cited Moses in His teaching on the issue

Yes, He did, and He also madeit very clear that it's wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought EO churches grant divorces & allow remarriage after, but there's a limit on how many someone can have

The EOC does not "grant" a divorce. The Church recognizes civil divorce in very few and special cases (prostitution a spouse, and other extreme cases of which I believe the number is seven). Permission is granted to remarry by the bishop exercising "economy" based on spiritual needs and benefits of individuals involved.

Technically, the number of "marriages" is three, but in pratice, two are the limit. There is no rubber stam involved in any of this, Each case is scrutinized indivdiually.

I can understand this to some extent, but a divorce is really difficult to justify scripturally.

Personally, I've become a different person than the one I was before my divorce

I understand, and you are not alone. In some many cases staying married is a horrible predicament. I believe the EOC concentrates on God's mercy in such cases, weighing what is spiritaully best for the individual.

It's easy to say you must reconcile by repenting. One may repent and wish never to repeat what was done, and still not love the spouse. So, then the rest of your "marriage" continues in a loveless, dead entrapment.

Mercy over judgment is the rule, and when a bishop consents to a civil divorce or second "marriage," it is always mercy, and not judgment, but I can tell you that Orthodox second marriage ceremony is like a funeral.

Yt we must not forget that strictly scripturally speaking, the Gospels leave very little room for justifying a divorce.

The Catholics also have annullment which is not divorce in the strictest sense because no marriage took place...that is a little difficult for even the EO to fully accept, when in reality some of these nonexistent marriages existed and produced children. Some sort of love must have existed at the time of such "marriages."

The EOC can also say that non-Orthodox and civil marriages are not "existent" and not count them.

Either way, divorce is probably one of the most difficult biblical issues to reconcile with the reality of life.

8,467 posted on 10/06/2007 11:04:30 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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