[MarkBsnr]

Why not just take a look at the map.

Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, some of Iran, Turkey - most of Asia Minor, the entire north and much of the west coast of Africa, up the Nile to Ethiopia, and Spain and Portugal were all conquered by the Moslems.

In 1526, Suleiman conquered southern Hungary, from his bases in Bulgaria, and three years later sailed up the Danube, conquering as he went. He laid siege to Vienna and was beaten off by winter and a coalition of forces. As they left, they maximized damage to the city and to the countryside.

In 1683, Vienna was again besieged and it took the combined might of all the West to finally push the Moslmes out of Central Europe. You friendly neighbourhood Turks.

[kosta50]

In 1683, Vienna was again besieged and it took the combined might of all the West to finally push the Moslmes out of Central Europe

It should have been done in 1389 when the Serbs confronted the Turks in Kosovo. Although they asked for Christian help, they didn't get any. The Turks could have been driven out of Europe and possibly out of Asiam Minor.

[Cronos]

Mark: Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, some of Iran, Turkey - most of Asia Minor, the entire north and much of the west coast of Africa, up the Nile to Ethiopia, and Spain and Portugal were all conquered by the Moslems.

In 1526, Suleiman conquered southern Hungary, from his bases in Bulgaria, and three years later sailed up the Danube, conquering as he went. He laid siege to Vienna and was beaten off by winter and a coalition of forces. As they left, they maximized damage to the city and to the countryside.

In 1683, Vienna was again besieged and it took the combined might of all the West to finally push the Moslmes out of Central Europe. You friendly neighbourhood Turks.

So you don't believe FTD who says "The Crusades were not defensive wars against Islam"