Posted on 07/05/2007 3:00:33 AM PDT by Gamecock
Careful... Many of the anti Mormons here on FR are Christians who do not believe that baptism by water is nessisary.
Quite right, and we also have high regard for Mary, the mother of God.
Alma 7:
10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
11 And he shall go forth, suffering pains and affliction's and temptations of every kind; and this that the word might be fulfilled which saith he will cake upon him the pains and the sicknesses of his people.
12 And he will take upon him death, that he may loose the bands of death which bind his people; and he will take upon him their infirmities, that his bowels may be filled with mercy, according to the flesh, that he may know according to the flesh how to succor his people according to their infirmities.
13 Now the Spirit knoweth all things; nevertheless the Son of God suffereth according to the flesh that he might take upon him the sins of his people, that he might blot out their transgressions according to the power of his deliverance; and now behold, this is the testimony which is in me.
Nice try!
2 Nephi 25:26
And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
That's because it's not true. It's one of many things the anti Mormons put out there to distort our faith.
Woah!!! Where do you get your info?
When a couple of lost souls knock on my door, do you seriously think I would pass up the opportunity to preach the Gospel to them?
No way. Sometimes you win, sometimes not.
What's that? It's not in my Bible.
See #122.
If you’re going to call colorcountry a liar then you really ought to at least give some examples on what colorcountry has supposed lied about.
Oh God hear the words of my mouth.
Why do they need to talk to a LDS missionary first? What special knowledge will they get from a LDS missionary?
The creeds you had cited were all the result of a group of theologians getting together and arriving at a consensus concerning a theological issue. The earliest Christians were not governed by these creeds, but they were clearly followers of Jesus Christ.
Admittedly I do have a limited understanding of Mormonism. However, God in man Jesus preexisted from before the creation of the universe and did not "evolve" from his manhood into a God.
If as has been stated here that Mormons believe God was once a man and "evolved" into God that is clearly not Scriptural. If I'm in error about this Mormon belief please let me know what the actual belief is.
You raise some excellent points.
Frankly, I am surprised that no one here has commented on the three passages in the Bible where the word Christian actually appears. The first is found in Acts 11:26: "And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
So Christian was first used a synonym for disciple: "a follower of Jesus Christ."
It Christianity was called "The Way" before that.
Acts 9:2
I clicked on colorcountry's posting history to find the latest example of one of her lies about the LDS Church and its beliefs, and I didn't have to scroll far to find Post #58 right here in this thread.
Colorcountry is constantly misrepresenting or flat out lying about the actual beliefs and doctrine of the LDS Church. She could just be happy in her new church, but she's got some obsession with bugging members of her old church and lying about it. You'd think that if she had such good reasons for leaving she wouldn't have to keep inventing more. But, that's what she does.
WHOA! That's gonna be a real disappointment to the mormons I went to church with for years. "As man is, God once was, as God is man may become" was taught over and over again. Boggles the mind that something this ingrained in mormonism is now being denied.
The first chapter of the edition (1992) of the Latter-day Saint teaching manual, Gospel Principles (Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints,1992 ed., p. 9.), quotes from the above passage under the heading What Kind of Being Is God?:
The Prophet Joseph Smith said: "If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible — I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). God is a glorified and perfected man, a personage of flesh and bones (see D&C 130:22).
God used to be a man on another planet, Mormon Doctrine, p. 321. Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, Vol 5, pp. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, Vol 2, p. 345, Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333.)
Now awaiting usual apologist's response discounting and twisting my sources as lies and my own memory as false...10...9....8....
That wasn’t a lie Spiff. It is easy to get confused when you are LDS and are taught the concept of pre-existence, eternal polygamy, spiritual offspring, .....
Either Heavenly Father had a child (Jesus) with his own spiritual daughter(incest)that he created with one of his eternal wives in the pre-existence, or Mary was one of his eternal wives. Which is it?
Don’t you wish I would go away and keep quiet?
Since I have seen practically every point that colorcountry has posted also posted by others here, I wonder who has the obsession? I have seen you call her liar time after time.
I guess it has escaped your notice that personal attacks are expressly forbidden in the religion forum.
Actually, it’s sort of funny. Nothing much like Mormon doctrine, but sort of funny. When was it “banned”? Who “banned” it?
Can you imagine if even our President, who is a Christian, decided for political reasons (just as Constantine did) to gather all the disagreeing leaders of various Christian churches, faiths and sects and crafted one single religion with an overarching creed out of what came out of that meeting? Would YOU want anything to do with that religion? And if you believe your current religion to be true, then what of this new religion? It changed some major tenants of your old religion, and compromised many others, so the new one can't be true, right? This is precisely what happened in the 4th Century, except that the guy behind it all was a Roman Emperor who may or may not have even been Christian at the time.
If the church established by Christ was even more altered and even warped then, and its true form and doctrine was lost, don't you think it necessary that it later be restored? It was. And it happened on April 6th, 1830 after God the Father and His son Jesus Christ visited and directed that it be restored after the long apostasy.
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