Posted on 06/18/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to re-marry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
If you are Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England, founded by Samuel Senbury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1606.
If you are of the Dutch Reformed Church, you recognize Mic helis Jones as founder because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, New York, in 1829.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as "Church of the Nazarene, Pentecostal Gospel," "Holiness Church," or "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past hundred years.
If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old.
If you are Orthodox Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."
This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium.
59 posted on 06/18/2007 9:26:10 PM MDT by kawaii
I use the Name he was given by the angel of the L-rd OBTW:When I call upon the Name of the L-rd, my messiah,
b'shem Yah'shua
which is Yah'shua not some greek god called i-zeus
John who wrote down Yah'shua's revelation was a Jew
and his L-rd's day was and still is Shabbat,
not the pagan sun-day of Constantine.
Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church,
Jesus said unto Peter; “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church”
One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Y'shua spoke these words.
This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH; the whole counsel of G-d.
The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Y'shua was speaking of himself as the "Rock "
e.g.
b'shem Yah'shuaGenesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of the LORD. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock , his works are perfect, and all his ways are
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour.
Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
the LORD had given them up?Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock , as even our enemies concede
Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like the LORD;
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "The LORD is my Rock , my fortress and my deliverer;
2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my Rock , in whom I take refuge, my shield and the
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour — from violent men you save me.2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
2 Samuel 22:47 "The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God, the Rock , my Saviour!
2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me:
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
Psalm 18:46 The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God my Saviour!
Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock , "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"
Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock , that God Most High was their Redeemer.
Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'
Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock , and there is no wickedness in him."
Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 144:1 Praise be to the LORD my Rock , who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
Habakkuk 1:12 O LORD, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy
One, we will not die. O LORD, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock , you have ordained them to punish.
No problem... :)
Please do not post to me. I am particularly indisposed to discuss anything with judaizing "Christian" leanings.
The Church was established on the Petencost in AD 33. The Church of Antioch was never the Holy See. Rome was and is. Two completely different and unrelated facts.
FTFY
And the faith was founded before the beginning of the world.
Your Creed includes the filioque which was inserted by our Catholic brothers in the 6th century and thereafter. While it is not heretical (because in the Divine Economy of our salvation the Spirit is sent from the Father to the Son and vice versa, and through the Son onto us), but it does not ontologically express the ultimate source of the Holy Ghost's divinity; in other words, the Holy Spirit, as regards His existence, eternally proceeds only from the Father. The Father is the source of His Spirit and His Son
I’m reading a book on Padre Pio, and they talked about the Byzantines coming into that part of Italy. Don’t remember the date exactly. 1800s?
**If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old. **
I wonder about this.
I don’t think the Orthodox on this thread agree about the Catholic Church being only 1,000 years old, just that the two churches have been divided (for whatever sad reasons) for that long.
freegards—and thank you for all your effort on FR
You'd be surprised about the Baptists today. In an informal poll in my Sunday School class, most Baptists in my class believe in having a beer or wine now and then. Personally I find nothing wrong or unbiblical with drinking in moderation. I don't drink because of personal reasons, not religious ones. However, I never mine being the designated driver.
The Roman Catholic Church took over the Church of England in 1066. William of Normandy received Papal blessing for his excursion on the condition that he replace the Saxon and Celtic bishops with ones who were more loyal to Rome. This is why the Orthodox date their schism with the Anglicans to 1066 and not 1054. You must understand that though the Church of England was in Communion with the Bishop of Rome (Synod of Whitby), the English Church, like the Greek Church, was not controlled by Rome until the arrival of the Normans. From the 1066 until 1582, the English people struggled against Roman control (Henry II, the Magna Carta, Edward I, the Acts of Praemenire, the Hundred Years War, the Acts of Restraint in Appeals and Supremacy, the Elizabethan Settlement and the Spanish Armada). Spain’s failure to take England by force and, like William of Normandy, replace the English bishops with ones loyal to Rome, sadly ended, perhaps forever, any possibility of a full Anglo-Roman reconciliation.
Fred, Sam, and Clarence.
1. Jesus is the latin not the greek but nice try (er lie)
2. there is tons of evidence that the earliest Christians celebrated the 8th day, the day of the ressurection AS WELL as the sabbath day which is why in Christian nations like Russia Saturday is Subbota (sabbath day!) and sunday is voskresenie (The Lord’s day)
Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.
Wonderful bit of plagarism.
It’s not as if you have folks dressed as Crusaders storming threads about Buddhism and such.
In my experience, Xs are most likely to troll a subject contemptuously, e.g. x-Catholic, x-Christian, x-Mormon, x-Protestant, x-Scientologists, x-smokers, x-drinkers.
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