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Gay, Catholic and parents of three
NCR Cafe ^ | March 18, 2007 | CHUCK COLBERT

Posted on 03/18/2007 6:12:58 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

No matter what they say, they are not Catholics in a state of grace. Just because you have joined a church, that does not make you a member in good standing.


21 posted on 03/18/2007 11:19:05 AM PDT by trimom
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To: narses

I think he's right - he should sit in his pew and not dare to approach communion. If he has a priest and bishop with a spine, he might learn something sitting there, though I suppose it seems unlikely at this point.


22 posted on 03/18/2007 11:30:52 AM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: OpusatFR
You've already committed spiritual suicide. You aren't brave. You have so much spiritual pride and sense of yourself and the rightness of your sin, you don't care what anyone thinks, namely God, or the congregation.

My thoughts, too. I shudder to think that they are receiving Communion and damning themselves even further.

23 posted on 03/18/2007 11:33:46 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: NYer

"The couple has joined thousands of others across the state who have signed an online statement for Roman Catholics supporting the civil marriage rights of same-sex couples."

Just because there are a lot of CINO's in MA, doesn't mean the Church is going to restructure all of its teachings on homosexual behavior.

"'We are a Catholic family," Maguire said. "We go to church on a regular basis, are respected in our parish, and are healthy contributors financially and morally.'"

You are not a Catholic family. The Catholic Church considers this lifestyle contrary to families. Your priest should not be allowing you to recieve Communion, either. The Church doesn't accept civil unions regardless of the couple, but the Church will never accept homosexual marriage.


24 posted on 03/18/2007 11:38:53 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Calpernia; TaxachusettsMan
Plea for the 'Transgendered'

If this is the same Andy Newman, then the bishop had better act quickly. They live in Concord, MA. Anyone know who is their bishop?

25 posted on 03/18/2007 12:16:48 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Calpernia
People who do not identify with the sex they were born into are lobbying Rutgers University for protection against discrimination and harassment, The Associated Press reported yesterday.
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That is the issue in a nutshell "people who do not identify with the sex they were born into". Those people are at war with their own gender, indeed their very being. They do not and cannot, until they become congruent with the sex they were born into, model normal human nature. Every child deserves that type of modeling in their gr owning years.

I do not want to hear that all people are abnormal. That is so true, but there is abnormal and abnormally abnormal and although we should not condemn such problems ridden people, we should condemn the movement to call them acceptable ways of being.
26 posted on 03/18/2007 12:22:23 PM PDT by amihow
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To: SteveMcKing
Maguire extended an invitation for Pope Benedict XVI to share a meal and meet the family.

He's as arrogant as the group of women priests who wrote to Pope Benedict XVI asking him to be more inclusive and allow them to serve in the RC Church. In case you missed it ...

14th annual dissident fest (Catholic feminists letter to Benedict XVI)

The problem with these folks is that they view themselves as heroes and heroines. They totally disregard the teachings of the Church (i.e. those of Christ), thinking these can be changed.

27 posted on 03/18/2007 12:29:36 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

All gay adoption is child abuse. We kid ourselves if we think otherwise.


28 posted on 03/18/2007 12:39:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: NYer

What makes this tough is that they have adopted and given the Faith to children. Yes, they ARE doing violence at the same time to them, which is why they never should have been allowed to adopt, but they have. That is the only redeeming thing I can see in their odd story of sodomy and heresy.


29 posted on 03/18/2007 12:41:13 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


30 posted on 03/18/2007 2:13:08 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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Homosexual/Catholic/Republican/Pro-Life Couple hire Surrogate Mother, Abort 1 Child, Baptize 4

31 posted on 03/18/2007 2:14:48 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: NYer

Cardinal Sean


32 posted on 03/18/2007 2:31:57 PM PDT by CatQuilt (GLSEN is evil)
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To: NYer
A recent poll from Decision Research shows that a majority of Catholics in Massachusetts -- 53 percent -- favor same-sex civil marriage.

Talk about a crisis of catechesis! And what more could we expect when people are raised on the notion that "God is love, so let's love one another" is all there is to their faith?

33 posted on 03/18/2007 2:38:58 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98
And what more could we expect when people are raised on the notion that "God is love, so let's love one another" is all there is to their faith?

I believe this is now changing as more bishops are stepping up to the lectern to address the serious crisis of Catholic faith to which their congregations have been exposed over the past 40 years. This will not happen overnight ... we may not even see the full fruits of it in our lifetime, but the shift has begun.

34 posted on 03/18/2007 3:56:58 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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This story will appear in the March 23 issue of National Catholic Reporter.

Phew! For a second I thought this was going to be in a Catholic publication!

35 posted on 03/18/2007 5:58:21 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Just disgusting, isn't it?


36 posted on 03/18/2007 6:01:04 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: NYer
"We are a Catholic family," Maguire said. "We go to church on a regular basis, are respected in our parish, and are healthy contributors financially and morally."

It is my fervent prayer that he continues to remain close to the Church so that someday he'll be able to get past his wall of pride and repent of his sins, for the sake of his own immortal soul and those of his kids.

37 posted on 03/18/2007 7:29:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Yeah, well I'm a sinner too, but I don't expect the Catholic Church to say that my sin is not sin just because I do a lot of other things well. "Hey we adulterers can still be good decent parents and raise our kids with good Christian morality" (I don't think so, Joe.)


38 posted on 03/18/2007 7:37:21 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: NYer

Apparently mothers are completely unimportant as far as these "men" are concerned.


39 posted on 03/18/2007 7:39:27 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: NYer
Yet, because 'gay marriage' is now 'legal' in the State of Massachusetts, they feel that gives them an upper hand in directing how the local Catholic Church must respond.

On the whole, there are those who worship at the altar of God and those who worship at the altar of State. And State will trump God every time. We've said goodbye to prayer in school, welfare replaced charity, the courts replaced morality, and raw power has replaced love. "O brave new world that has such people in it..."

40 posted on 03/18/2007 7:47:35 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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