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Catholic Church & Jesus Christ-Why No One Should Be A Catholic
Apostolic Messianic Fellowship ^ | August 30, 2005 | Why No One Should Be A Catholic

Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool

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To: Iscool
But when a Catholic looks into the Bible for this mystery ritual Mass they will not find it.

Not sure what Bible this Pastor is looking at but from Matthew 26:26-28, you find this:

26 And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body.

27 And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this.

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.


Mark 14:22-24

22 And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and said: Take ye. This is my body.

23 And having taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to them. And they all drank of it.

24 And he said to them: This is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many.


Luke 22:19-20

19 And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.

20 In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.


John 6:48-58

48 I am the bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven.

52 If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.

53 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.


Funny how crap like this comes out during the time of lent, right before the Passion of Christ.
521 posted on 03/05/2007 5:52:40 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: Iscool
The first thing a Catholic learns when they open their Bible is they cannot buy their way out of hell fire.

When a Catholic looks in the Bible they will not find purgatory. They will not find priests taking money to say a Mass to get souls out of the fires of hell. The Catholic church is popular because many do not want much out of religion and the Catholic church offers them the little they want.

Can't read any further ... laughing hysterically. This is almost as absurd as the Discovery show last night about Jesus' family tomb.

522 posted on 03/05/2007 6:12:09 AM PST by al_c
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To: Unam Sanctam
Given that you obviously don't understand a thing that the Catholic Church teaches, I don't think you are in any position to tell people not to be Catholics.

I didn't write the article..I'm still learning about the Catholic church...But tell me...Is the author correct when he says 'Lent' was initially a Pagan practice???

523 posted on 03/05/2007 6:27:33 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: al_c
Did you watch that thing? Was it like Al Capone's safe? What happened?

(I had to wash the dog and missed it.)

524 posted on 03/05/2007 6:28:20 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: TASMANIANRED

God ALWAYS brings good out of evil!


525 posted on 03/05/2007 6:46:20 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: the808bass
Homer has most certainly experienced a development in its tradition.

Textual analysis has shown that it wasn't just written down all at once -- the "received version" was only established over a period of time. Just like the Canon established by the Church . . . the conversion of oral to written tradition really does follow a pattern!

Then, of course, you have the issue of translations. I always thought that the Lattimore translation was as good as it was going to get, until Fagle came out with his. Lattimore is line-for-line more accurate in terms of a literal translation of the Greek, but Fagle catches the meaning better, if that makes sense. I wish I read Greek well enough to enjoy Homer without a "crib" . . . but I don't now and was just barely literate in Greek back when I was taking it seriously with an eye to a Classics major . . . but I started Greek too late and had switched Latin for German in high school, so there was no way I could get the required courses done in 4 years . . .

526 posted on 03/05/2007 6:53:14 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: steve8714

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1794755/posts


527 posted on 03/05/2007 7:09:24 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: Iscool

"..I'm still learning about the Catholic church..."

Why don't you just use porn or some such reading material. It has the same usefulness learning about Catholicism as this article.

Yeah, I'm blunt to a fault. That's my cross.


528 posted on 03/05/2007 7:10:16 AM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Did you watch that thing? Was it like Al Capone's safe? What happened?

Not the whole thing. I was actually doing some work in the next room while my wife watched it. I did peak at it on occasion when I heard ridiculous statements. I don't think any of their claims hold water, IMO. Just speculation after speculation.

529 posted on 03/05/2007 7:16:43 AM PST by al_c
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To: Iscool

I have no idea, nor do I care, since the value of having a somber penitential season of fasting and prayer leading up to the commemoration of the passion, death and resurrection of Our Lord seems quite obvious. Pagan things are bad only insofar as they contradict the teachings of the faith, and if they don't, they can be "baptized", like Christmas trees, to serve the inculturation and growth of the Faith. I think Lent is a terrific reminder of our fallenness and need for Christ's redemption. The fasting and somberness appeals and teaches our weak human senses. When I was a Protestant, there was not nearly an emphasis on our sinfulness. The mainstream Protestant churches have pretty much eliminated the concept of individual sin.


530 posted on 03/05/2007 7:18:27 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Iscool

Why do you ask us if the author is correct when you obviously take his words as "Gospel" already.


531 posted on 03/05/2007 7:29:03 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Kolokotronis
While Roman Popes had certainly been jealous of their real or imagined perogatives as the first among equals and zealous in their exercise, it really wasn't until the Popes began trying to impose innovative Frankish theology on the East that the Great Schism became inevitable. In all honesty, UC, its Charlemagne the Protestants should look to rather than Constantine for an imperial source of "Roman Catholicism".

You're right, things changed radically into an imperial Papacy at the time of Charlemagne, but it could not have happened without the Donation of Constantine. This document was pulled out and waved in front of Pepin and Charlemagne as evidence of the Pope's imperial rights of long-standing dating back to Constantine. It persuaded Pepin and Charlemagne to act of the Pope's behalf, even though the document was a blatant fraud.

532 posted on 03/05/2007 7:33:12 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Iscool; Unam Sanctam
I'm still learning about the Catholic church.

Very nearly everything you have learned is wrong.

Is the author correct when he says 'Lent' was initially a Pagan practice???

NO. Are you aware that most traditional Protestant denominations observe Lent? Or does your hatred only extend to Catholics?

533 posted on 03/05/2007 7:36:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Iscool

Where did you dig this up? From James Cameron's lost tomb of Jesus?


534 posted on 03/05/2007 7:40:43 AM PST by frogjerk (If ignorance was bliss, liberals would be happy.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I agree with you.

However, I'll add that the author of that work can't know very much about Scripture to say that the practice of Lent is derived from pagan practices.

When 40 days appears in the Bible it is an indicator of a time of waiting, suffering, longing for the appearance of the Lord. It is 40 days of preparation and/or reparation: Noah, the Israelites in the desert, the 40-day encounter of Christ with Satan, the 40 days after the Resurrection to Pentecost. These are just the more signal uses of the term 40 in Scripture to indicate a time of waiting on the word, the voice or the action of God. Ther are more.

Lent is the 40 days of fasting and prayer to honor the 40 days Jesus endured before opening up his public life. For ourselves and for our salvation, He won victory over Satan with prayer and fasting--prayer and fasting is what Jesus Himself commanded us to do in order to win over temptation.
We become doers of His word and life when we enter into this "desert place" to fast and pray.


535 posted on 03/05/2007 7:47:55 AM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Unam Sanctam
they can be "baptized", like Christmas trees

I never thought of it that way.

536 posted on 03/05/2007 7:49:27 AM PST by tiki
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To: wagglebee
Or does your hatred only extend to Catholics?

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal. Reading the minds of other posters is "making it personal."
537 posted on 03/05/2007 7:52:23 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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538 posted on 03/05/2007 7:55:28 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Religion Moderator

I apologize.


539 posted on 03/05/2007 7:56:42 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: gondramB

**I could also write a book defending the Catholic church - they have faced so many obstacles, do so much good, work to correct their errors over time and when I heard John Paul II speak or I hear my friend, a retired nun, I KNOW I hear sincere Christians seeking to do as God asks.**

**But this paper feels bad. It feels deliberately hurtful. It doesn't matter if Pastor G. Reckart gets some details right or not if the intent is to harm other Christians and their faith.

I keep coming back to this. God wants us to be good to each other and to love Him and ask forgiveness when we do wrong. Those three simple things that God asks simply don't call me to judge the faith and worship of other Christians.**

Thank you for your informed and wise feedback.


540 posted on 03/05/2007 8:02:30 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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