Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool
There is no forgiveness for those who reject Jesus Christ and they will not be in heaven to receive anything. Matt 12:32
I agree with you on the Greek grammar. There's not much room to dance on grammar. Which makes it all the more curious as to why the Church fathers dance. Why do they say time after time that it's the confession which is the rock? Or both? Or say one and then later retract and leave it up to the reader (as Augustine did)?
**15] When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter,**
I said my peace at post 205. I haven't followed it. I just notice it keeps popping up on the Latest Posts.
The average protestant pastor would do well to drive a new Camry off a lot let alone a Benz. Your hyperbole doesn't serve your argument.
The pentacostals, "church of God" and others are simply inventions of men...designed to pump the ego and line the pockets of the "pastors."
Assigning the worst possible motives to your theological opponents does not advance any sort of dialogue. Disagreement on points of doctrine does not equate to all "pentacostals" (sp) being ego-driven. It is fun to see a Catholic painting with a broad brush based upon the actions of a few. I have a nice, crisp $5 bill that you'd scream "foul" if the same was done to Catholics.
I thought being Christian undead was what it was all about.
**What happened to Peter when he told a big lie?**
Exactly what are you talking about? Chapter and Verse please.
When he said that he would never deny Christ? I don't think that was a lie. I think he fully intended not to deny Christ.
What happened when the cock crowed the second time, what did Peter do?
"He went out and wept bitterly"
10-4.
I'm at the, "I'm in unless somebody stops me" stage now. All because of being prayer-bombed the last couple of days. Salvation and Kolokotronis contacted their armies. God answered. It scares me. For me that's another sign it's right for me.
Thanks.
I don't think the original article was Christian. I think it was a horrible screed. It did attract a great many Christians, though, so the Holy Spirit works in amazing ways.
You know how this goes. St. Paddy's is just around the corner and a good "bar fight" breaks out somewhere. This is kinda like that...no? People explaining what happened while the crowd watches the show. Some great apologetics came out though!
;-o)
I stand by my statments and God knows the motives of my heart.
I do not defend what you call the protestant church. I stand with Christ and His Word. Denominations including the RCC are a thing of men not Christ. There is only one true church and that is the saved by Christ church. It's members are in many churches and in some places very much alone, but they have Christ and He has them. They do not have to add one thing to what Christ did for them on His cross and they do not try. Yet they lay their lives down daily because of the love between their Lord and them.
Even those who are not Catholic have a healthy respect for Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI and their diplomatic efforts for world peace. These Popes have been the visible face of the Catholic Church to the world, and what an inspiration they both are to a world mired in tragedies, looking for leadership and answers!
Maybe Satan is more clever than you think.
Maybe he's start more gradually. Church plus tradition plus Bible is too strong. Too many things reinforce each other.
So break away one thing at a time. First, remove the authority of the Church in succession from the Apostles, gathered around Peter. This is precisely what Henry VIII did in England. He didn't want to be anything but a Catholic, but he wanted to be a non-Papal Catholic.
Having removed the authority of the bishops and the Apostolic See, the way is open to chip away at tradition.
So, within a few years after Henry, all sorts of innovations we would recognize as Protestant (and some we wouldn't!) had made their way into the official worship and practice of the Church of England.
Finally, with no church and no tradition, you have only the Bible in the hands of the individual believer, who is free to embrace YOPIOS ... and make Christianity mean whatever he wants it to mean, by deciding that the Bible means whatever he wants it to mean.
For example, he might conclude that he can find no Biblical warrant to reject polygamy.
(Martin Luther did so at one point; research the episode with Philip of Hesse.)
He might conclude that he can find no binding Biblical warrant to reject homosexuality.
(See any number of liberal Protestant denominations today, including several with historical ties to the original Reformers.)
He might conclude that the Trinity is a man-made invention. (Most of the New England Unitarians started out as Calvinists.)
He might conclude that his own church's prophets are capable of inspired utterances equal to Scripture.
(See the breakaway German Lutheran schismatic groups which founded the Amana colonies in Iowa.)
More than replacing God, Satan wants to separate man from God, eternally. And how better to do that than to put man in a position where each individual can decide for himself what religious truth is, and what it means ... and still claim to wear the mantle of authentic Christianity.
**You pray to her and that is worship reserved for God alone. **
Wrong!
Have you ever asked someone to pray for you?
That is exactly what we do with the Blessed Virgin Mary. We ask her through prayer to pray FOR us.
Go back to the Wedding of Cana where Christ first manifested himself. Who made the petition to him? Who interceded for the bride and groom?
It was His Mother. Why wouldn't we want to hold her in likewise, high regard. If Christ worked a miracle for her, then upon her asking, He might work a miracle in our lives.
Godspeed! I'm gonna turn in. I hope to make Mass tomorrow AM. Keep in touch!
Frank
Be nice! The poor guy just had both feet broken and put back together in surgery!
According to Scripture, Jesus is your brother. (I can cite several passages, if you need me to do that.)
If Jesus is your brother -- spiritually, and by adoption, of course -- what does that make Mary to you?
So far....the best post on this thread....and I have read them all!
Thank you for it.
Superb, Edmund! I'm glad I bookmarked this thread.
**Mary was not conceived free from sin. **
Again you are mistaken. Would The Angel Gabriel call her "full of grace" or some Bibles these days says, "highly favored one" for nothing?
She had no sin so that she could be the New Ark of the Covenant and carry Jesus within her womb. Does it make sense that God would put Jesus, sinless as he was, inside a woman who had sinned? I think not.
Jesus cannot do that (the underlined part) without sinning.
It is a sin for a Jew to invite, or permit, another Jew to ignore the commandments of God.
Unless, of course, there was no younger sibling in the first place.
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