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'I'm no wishy-washy non-believer'
New Zealand Herald | Saturday January 13, 2007 | Patrick Gower

Posted on 01/12/2007 12:32:54 PM PST by rogernz

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hahahaha

this just makes me laugh....

1 posted on 01/12/2007 12:32:55 PM PST by rogernz
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To: rogernz

Of course there's no proof...that's why it's called belief. Some have it, some don't, and it differs with the individuals.


2 posted on 01/12/2007 12:35:20 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: rogernz

"Bishop Richard Randerson admits that his spiritual views may be seen by some as heresy."

They are heresy plain and simple. He should resign his position of bishop or be removed.


3 posted on 01/12/2007 12:37:08 PM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: rogernz

He sounds like a man who ought to be honest with himself and his flock and go out and find honest work. I know that that's probably going to be hard to do after 42 years as a priest, and I'm sure that being dean of Holy Trinity and assistant bishop of Aukland is a pretty cushy gig, but I'm sure that a man of his abilities should be able to figure something out.


4 posted on 01/12/2007 12:47:29 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Great nations cannot choose to lose wars simply because they've lost interest in them)
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To: DarthVader

They are saving removals for the real dangerous ones, the pastors and bishops who believe Jesus actually died for their sins.


5 posted on 01/12/2007 12:55:27 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rogernz
any proof the Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus in a "gynaecological miracle".

He cannot ask for others to respect him and then use such disgustingly disrespectful language.

He is an ass and not a serious person.

6 posted on 01/12/2007 1:15:29 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
His conscience is seared.
7 posted on 01/12/2007 1:17:09 PM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: rogernz
He admits that he is an agnostic who does not believe Adam and Eve were real, or that there is any proof the Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus in a "gynaecological miracle".

If you're going to be an agnostic, you might as well reap the benefit of sleeping in on Sunday morning.
8 posted on 01/12/2007 1:37:31 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: rogernz

I went to the Auckland Cathedral's Christmas Midnight service which Randerson gave the sermon. It was so mushy and wishy-washy that I instantly see it myself why the Anglican church is in freefall.


9 posted on 01/12/2007 2:06:07 PM PST by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: sionnsar; AnAmericanMother

Anglican ping!


10 posted on 01/12/2007 2:06:52 PM PST by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: NZerFromHK
Just damn.

The problem is, as C.S. Lewis said long ago, he can believe anything he wants to . . .

. . . but he can't keep on taking money from the Church if he doesn't believe in what the Church teaches.

It's fundamentally dishonest and treaacherous . . . like being an executive in a corporation and working for a competitor at the same time.

11 posted on 01/12/2007 2:33:54 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: wideawake

" He is an ass and not a serious person."

Oh please do not insult the good creature the ass.
Remember Balam's ass saw an angel even when Balam did not. And it was a ass colt that had the honor of carrying our Lord into Jerusalem. And no doubt it was a hard working ass that Mary rode on her journey to Bethlehem.

The ass is a hard working, loyal creature. Stubborn yes but if well treated and given care very willing to any task given it.

The Archbiship on the other hand is a mushroom. Living in the dark and surviving on whatever s**t someone throws his way.


12 posted on 01/12/2007 2:34:09 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: wideawake

"The poison of heresy is not too dangerous when it is preached only from outside the Church. Many times more perilous is that poison which is gradually introduced into the organism in larger and larger doses by those who, in virtue of their position, should not be poisoners but spiritual physicians." Metropolitan Philaret


13 posted on 01/12/2007 3:47:14 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: rogernz

Hasn't he studied the 10 Commandments, especially #2, Thou shall not make God into a graven image.

God is who He is, not who we want him to be.


14 posted on 01/12/2007 4:03:02 PM PST by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: JamesP81

"If you're going to be an agnostic, you might as well reap the benefit of sleeping in on Sunday morning."

No, no, you've got it all wrong!
If you're going to be an agnostic, you might as well reap the benefit of sleeping AROUND on Sunday morning!


15 posted on 01/12/2007 5:12:13 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: NZerFromHK
I went to the Auckland Cathedral's Christmas Midnight service which Randerson gave the sermon. It was so mushy and wishy-washy that I instantly see it myself why the Anglican church is in freefall.

It's almost odd that it's the English-speaking churches with the troubles -- US, Canada, CofE, NZ and possibly some of Australia.

16 posted on 01/12/2007 5:15:20 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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17 posted on 01/12/2007 5:16:09 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: rogernz

How dare this man even claim to be a Christian!


18 posted on 01/12/2007 5:52:42 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: rogernz
"I'm not just some wishy-washy non-believer as they would like to make out." Of course you are a wishy-washy non-believer, you are an agnostic. Otherwise you would be an atheist.
19 posted on 01/12/2007 6:07:43 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: stuartcr

Lack of physical or mental evidence does not limit spiritual perception. Proof may also come from the spiritual domain.

Belief is a method of thinking, not necessarily lacking in proof or evidence.


20 posted on 01/12/2007 6:20:39 PM PST by Cvengr
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