Posted on 11/30/2006 6:10:14 AM PST by cowboyfan88
FACT NO. 1That the Bible MUST be rightly divided in order for it to make sense. Notice what it says: "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the Word of truth" (II Tim. 2:15). This is one of the cardinal rules for interpreting the whole Bible. Neglect of this rule or a faulty use of it will lead to only one result, CONFUSION, since our God is not the author of confusion.
The reason for a right division of the Bible is because of God's two distinct purposes: (1) His purpose concerning Israel and the world according to PROPHECY, and (2) His purpose concerning the Gentiles in this present age according to the MYSTERY revealed to Paul. God doesn't want us to confuse the teaching of these two purposes. He has very graciously given us the key for a proper understanding of this.
FACT NO. 2That the DISTINCTIVENESS of Pauline truth is a most important doctrine of the Bible. The risen Lord Jesus Christ revealed His heart and His mind to the Apostle Paul: "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it but by THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST" (Gal. 1:11,12). "If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward; how that BY REVELATION He made known unto me the MYSTERY..." (Eph. 3:2,3).
This proves conclusively that Paul did not preach what the 12 Apostles preached. Rather he went up to Jerusalem to TELL THEM of the special gospel of grace that Christ gave to him (Gal. 2:2). He preached Jesus Christ according to the REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY which was kept secret, hid in God (Rom. 16:25; Eph. 3:9). He was the Apostle to the Gentiles and magnified his office (Rom. 11:13).
FACT NO. 3That the gospel we are to preach is called the Gospel of the grace of God. "But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy and the ministry which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD" (Acts 20:24). This is God's only message for the lost in this present age. We are to follow Paul as he followed Christ (I Cor. 11:1). In his writings ALONE do we find the doctrine, position, walk, and destiny of the Christian.
Some other important aspects of grace are:
1. We are saved by GRACEEph. 2:8,9.
2. We are justified freely by His GRACERom. 3:24; Titus 3:7.
3. His GRACE is sufficient for usII Cor. 12:9.
4. We are not under Law but under GRACERom. 6:14,15.
5. This age is the age of GRACE Eph. 3:2.
6. We are to approach the throne of GRACE in prayerHeb. 4:16.
FACT NO. 4That the Bible definitely teaches that water baptism was and is a part of Israel's religion (Heb. 6:1,2; 9:10). It was for the remission of sins and was by sprinkling (Mark 1:4; Acts 2:38; Ezek. 36:25).
In this age there is only ONE baptism, not two: "One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM" (Eph. 4:5). This baptism is the placing of the Christian into the Church, the Body of Christ, by the Holy Spirit: "For by one SPIRIT are we all BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit" (I Cor. 12:13). This baptism takes place once for all at the time of salvation.
The Apostle Paul was not sent to baptize with water: "For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach the gospel..." (I Cor. 1:17). Only a change in God's purpose would necessitate a statement like this. There is no importance attached to water baptism, today. It is not a part of Christianity and only causes confusion.
FACT NO. 5That we must understand the two-fold ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ. During His earthly ministry He ministered exclusively to Israel: "But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL" (Matt. 15:24). His whole ministry to the Nation was under the Law of Moses (Matt. 5:17; Gal. 4:4,5). Christians are not under the Law so we are not to live according to Israel's teachings.
During His present ministry in Heaven, He is ministering according to what He revealed to the Apostle Paul. He is saving men according to His gospel of Grace. He is at the throne of grace making intercession for us (Rom. 8:34). We are to live in Paul's epistles where pure Christianity is found. This is not to say we should neglect the rest of the Bible. It is ALL for us but not all TO us (I Cor. 10:6,11).
FACT NO. 6That SIGNS belong to the Nation of Israel and its religion: "For the JEWS REQUIRE A SIGN, and the Gentiles seek after wisdom" (I Cor. 1:22). Speaking in tongues is a SIGN: "Wherefore TONGUES are for a SIGN, not to them that believe but to them that believe not..." (I Cor. 14:22).
In Jesus' day, those who sought after signs were called an evil and adulterous generation (Matt. 12:39). The eight miracles of the Gospel of John are properly called SIGNS, which included the rising of Lazarus from the dead; and in the commission of Mark 16:15-18, water baptism is associated with SIGNS. This is proved in the book of Acts because everywhere water baptism is mentioned a SIGN is mentioned in the immediate context.
This present age is a signless age. We have been blessed with all SPIRITUAL blessings in the heavenlies in Christ (Eph. 1:3). This is where the emphasis lies for the Christian.
FACT NO. 7That the COMMISSION the Church, the Body of Christ, is to work under, is found in II Corinthians 5:14-21 and Ephesians 3:9. The Kingdom commission of Matthew 28:19-20 and Mark 16:15-18 does not belong to God's present grace purpose. The message of reconciliation has been committed to US, the Body of Christ.
RESULTS:
1. The Christian would begin to perceive and grasp the deep things of God (I Cor. 2:10-12).
2. There would be a wonderful growth into spiritual maturity and adulthood (Eph. 4:12-15).
3. He would become a faithful steward of the mysteries of God (I Cor. 2:7; 4:1,2).
4. He would possess the Biblical answer to Satan's false cults like Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientists, Unitarians, Modernists, etc. They all borrow some aspects of Israel's religion.
5. A mighty revival would take place if Christians would get back to Pauline truth.
My friend, if you are not saved, the grace of God invites you to receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour. You are a sinner and need to be saved (Rom. 3:23). "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved..." (Acts 16:31). "...now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (II Cor. 6:2). It is infinitely better to receive Him and spend eternity in Heaven than to reject Him and spend eternity in the Lake of Fire!
and a bit unorthodox...
I am not denying that James and the leaders of the church in Jerusalem told Paul to do that. My point is that not everyone in the church in Jerusalem believed that the law was binding, and even if they did, it was shown to not be the case.
*** My point is that not everyone in the church in Jerusalem believed that the law was binding,***
Where is that in scripture that some from Jerusalem did not do these things? If they were Jewish they had to do them. Remember, this order came from JAMES and the ELDERS, the rulers of the Jerusalem church.
Paul even circumcised Timmothy (1/2 Jew) and Peter, at Antioch, in fear separated himself from the Gentile believers when Jewish Christians came from James.
Examine Scripture and you will see that the church was not monolithic in what they did.
***I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,***
Some here insist baptism saves. Is Paul saying that he thanks God he saved none except Crispus and Gaius?
***and a bit unorthodox...***
Where? they are Trinitarian in doctrine.
Why don't you ask them?
Because he doesn't like the answer.
I didn't bother reading it. Is believing the earth was created in six days approximately six thousand years ago one of the "truths"?
***Because he doesn't like the answer.***
If this is in reference to post #24, then I will ask the question I always ask.
If Baptism saves, are Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses saved as they believe THE SAME DOCTRINE on baptism as you do.
If not, why not.
From a Catholic POV, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe the same doctrine we do; for starters, I think they both deny original sin. The Mormons certainly do.
But an even bigger catch is that they both deny the Trinity, so as far as we're concerned, what they do isn't Christian baptism at all.
You seem to be trying to start an argument about a position I don't hold. Fortunately, a Catholic's taken issue with what you've said, so now you can have your fun.
I have answered this before, and you keep bringing it up. You are not interested in having a genuine discussion. You only wish to keep throwing out accusations and seeing what sticks.
***You seem to be trying to start an argument about a position I don't hold. Fortunately, a Catholic's taken issue with what you've said, so now you can have your fun.***
I find it interesting you are on my case. My Geneva bible makes it clear we are not saved by water baptism. It even has a prayer in the back "against the papists and anabaptists.
So-was Calvin wrong in these notes?
***From a Catholic POV, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe the same doctrine we do;***
I agree with you on all this. I know that the when a protestant converts to the Catholic faith their baptism in that protestant faith, such as Baptist, or Methodist and Presbyterian is accepted by the Catholic church. Mormon and JW baptism is not.
What I am trying to show is ther are certain church groups that will not accept any protestant or Catholic baptism but you must be re-baptized in their own particular church with the proper mindset, by immersion only after you have run down the proper checklist of things you have to do. The followers of the doctrine of Alexander Campbell come immediatly to mind, although there are some others.
Once again, you are misrepresenting the beliefs of members of churches of Christ. We do not follow Alexander Campbell, we follow Christ. And I know of no member of the church of Christ that claims a church of Christ member has to baptize someone for it to be valid.
***How so?***
Calvin and Beza's notes.
Isn't it interesting that all those who translated the KJV used the geneva Bible and were believers in sprinkling, not immersion.( I can't think of any anabaptists on the translating committie but I might be wrong.)
The KJV is the bible of Alex Campbell used.
Would you say that he used a bible translated by what you would term UNSAVED men?
*** And I know of no member of the church of Christ that claims a church of Christ member has to baptize someone for it to be valid.***
Then is Baptist immersion valid for one to be a menber of the C of C?
Baptist baptism is not Biblical baptism. The baptism is done for the wrong purpose. The person who does the baptizing does not matter. However, the reasons for being baptized are important, since they are specified in Scripture.
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