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To: jkl1122; A.J.Armitage

***Because he doesn't like the answer.***

If this is in reference to post #24, then I will ask the question I always ask.

If Baptism saves, are Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses saved as they believe THE SAME DOCTRINE on baptism as you do.

If not, why not.


29 posted on 11/30/2006 7:36:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
If Baptism saves, are Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses saved as they believe THE SAME DOCTRINE on baptism as you do.

From a Catholic POV, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe the same doctrine we do; for starters, I think they both deny original sin. The Mormons certainly do.

But an even bigger catch is that they both deny the Trinity, so as far as we're concerned, what they do isn't Christian baptism at all.

30 posted on 11/30/2006 8:04:38 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You seem to be trying to start an argument about a position I don't hold. Fortunately, a Catholic's taken issue with what you've said, so now you can have your fun.


31 posted on 11/30/2006 9:09:38 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I have answered this before, and you keep bringing it up. You are not interested in having a genuine discussion. You only wish to keep throwing out accusations and seeing what sticks.


32 posted on 12/01/2006 5:38:07 AM PST by jkl1122
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