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Halloween: Behind the Mask
Good News Magazine ^ | Fall 2005 | Jerold Aust

Posted on 10/22/2006 10:37:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: DouglasKC

I'm kind of wondering the same thing as post #80. What happens when a kid comes to your door on Halloween?


81 posted on 10/22/2006 6:49:31 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: DouglasKC

I grew up trick-or-treating. I had fun and there was no "devil-worship" or B.S. involved. It was fun.

I am a born-again Christian Evangelical, and I do not fear Halloween.


82 posted on 10/22/2006 6:49:47 PM PDT by BLS (If you were blind you wouldn't be guilty, but you are guilty because you claim you can see)
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To: DouglasKC

"Scripture focuses on the holy days that God created which are listed in Leviticus chapter 23, not days employed in pagan worship practices. However, the bible is clear that pagan worship practices are not be observed by those who worship God."


Really? Hmmm. Do you honestly believe that Jesus was born on December 25th?


83 posted on 10/22/2006 6:52:34 PM PDT by BLS (If you were blind you wouldn't be guilty, but you are guilty because you claim you can see)
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To: DouglasKC
How about watching the programs about haunted houses on the cable channels? Is that going to provoke the wrath of God?
84 posted on 10/22/2006 6:54:30 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Dog Gone
I'm guessing you don't give the neighbor kids any candy that night.

We live out in the country, on a private road with only a few neighbors, none with small children. I can't ever remember seeing a trick or treater out here.

But IF a kid did come by, I would politely explain to them that we don't celebrate Halloween and thank them for stopping by.

85 posted on 10/22/2006 6:55:23 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: BLS
Really? Hmmm. Do you honestly believe that Jesus was born on December 25th?

No I don't. Scripture is completely silent on the date of his birth, however we can deduce that he was probably born sometime in the autumn.

86 posted on 10/22/2006 6:58:23 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Ditter
How about watching the programs about haunted houses on the cable channels? Is that going to provoke the wrath of God?

As opposed to DVD's and broadcast channels? I don't know how wrathful God would be, but I don't think he's overjoyed to know that demons or demonic activity are being marketed as entertainment.

87 posted on 10/22/2006 7:05:33 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Salvation
Ideas for Sanctifying Halloween, All Saints Day and All Souls Day

If by "sanctify" the author means "make holy" then it's impossible. Only God can make a day holy....and he already did it.

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Halloween, All Soul's Day or All Saint's Day are not one of the holy days God created and cannot be made holy by man.

88 posted on 10/22/2006 7:25:58 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Creationist

So is dressing up in costumes and trick-or-treating "witchcraft"?


89 posted on 10/22/2006 8:47:50 PM PDT by stands2reason (The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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To: eleni121
there are millions of concerned people who think that Halloween is a holiday that subverts their faith...

If a communitywide festive celebration threatens your faith, you don't have much to begin with.

90 posted on 10/22/2006 8:50:00 PM PDT by stands2reason (The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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To: stands2reason

It's not about threatening my faith..you have that wrong. It's about little kids and their unthinking parents who get sucked into a "fun" holiday never realizing its dangers. Recently a resurgence of paganism and witchcraft in our culture is caused largely in response to the secularization of our nation. When people feel a void in their lives the void can easily be filled with evil.

I can handle it...and you can too...but there are those who cannot. That is why the article that was posted is relevant and important.


91 posted on 10/22/2006 8:59:04 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: eleni121
However, its celebrations has been taken up more publically by the Wiccans and Satanists who proclaim the day's wickedness.

This sounds really exciting. Could you refer me to some quotes by Wiccans proclaiming the day's wickedness?
92 posted on 10/23/2006 1:11:11 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: DouglasKC

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[The vigil of this feast is popularly called "Hallowe'en" or "Halloween".]

Solemnity celebrated on the first of November. It is instituted to honour all the saints, known and unknown, and, according to Urban IV, to supply any deficiencies in the faithful's celebration of saints' feasts during the year.

In the early days the Christians were accustomed to solemnize the anniversary of a martyr's death for Christ at the place of martyrdom. In the fourth century, neighbouring dioceses began to interchange feasts, to transfer relics, to divide them, and to join in a common feast; as is shown by the invitation of St. Basil of Caesarea (397) to the bishops of the province of Pontus. Frequently groups of martyrs suffered on the same day, which naturally led to a joint commemoration. In the persecution of Diocletian the number of martyrs became so great that a separate day could not be assigned to each. But the Church, feeling that every martyr should be venerated, appointed a common day for all. The first trace of this we find in Antioch on the Sunday after Pentecost. We also find mention of a common day in a sermon of St. Ephrem the Syrian (373), and in the 74th homily of St. John Chrysostom (407). At first only martyrs and St. John the Baptist were honoured by a special day. Other saints were added gradually, and increased in number when a regular process of canonization was established; still, as early as 411 there is in the Chaldean Calendar a "Commemoratio Confessorum" for the Friday after Easter. In the West Boniface IV, 13 May, 609, or 610, consecrated the Pantheon in Rome to the Blessed Virgin and all the martyrs, ordering an anniversary. Gregory III (731-741) consecrated a chapel in the Basilica of St. Peter to all the saints and fixed the anniversary for 1 November. A basilica of the Apostles already existed in Rome, and its dedication was annually remembered on 1 May. Gregory IV (827-844) extended the celebration on 1 November to the entire Church. The vigil seems to have been held as early as the feast itself. The octave was added by Sixtus IV (1471-84).

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Nothing to do with the disgusting candyfest promoted by every drug store in our neopagan culture, because they seek ruin of souls. Don't do it, folks.

93 posted on 10/23/2006 1:35:37 AM PDT by annalex
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To: DouglasKC
I wouldn't say I'm afraid of Halloween, but I am very cognizant that Satan uses that day to drive his agenda.

Tooth decay?

And your analogy! You equate people that celebrate Halloween to people that would celebrate some pig that rapes little girls...sure you are entitled to your opinion, but you are one sick individual.

Satan may indeed be promoting his agenda, but not through Halloween. Rather through religious fanatics reactions to Halloween and their damning of people that celebrate it.

As an aside, I think it would be hilarious to dress up as Dutch 'toon Mohammed, maybe make the bomb out of paper mache and somehow afix it to the turban and glue some cotton painted orange and yellow to the wire "fuse". Unwise but undeniably hilarious.

94 posted on 10/23/2006 1:44:23 AM PDT by AtomicBuffaloWings (Still not hot enough, A few of my taste buds are still alive.)
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To: DouglasKC
If the Pagan roots of things bother you, why do you still celebrate a holiday named "Easter"? the name obviously suggests a reference to the equinox. Why don't you call it Resurrection Day or Salvation Day?

The Pagan roots of things in our culture and our language are all around us and don't mean anything unless we choose to let them. Relax, Halloween is all about a bit of fun, just like Harry Potter.

95 posted on 10/23/2006 2:04:23 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods; DouglasKC

Douglas can speak for himself, but it is not the roots, that bother me, it is the fruit of the roots.

The way Halloween is currently celebrated promotes superstition and celebrates indifference to true religion. In a cultural vacuum it is probably defencible, like the Nazis celebrating German folk mythology. In the context of today's culture, it is deplorable. Just like Harry Potter, or Nazi goosstepping in Berlin.


96 posted on 10/23/2006 2:18:07 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Halloween and Harry Potter are about fun. Nothing more or less.

H.L. Mencken defined "Puritanism" as a reaction to the sneaking fear that someone, somewhere was having fun. This silly fear of Halloween and HP is just as indefensible. Let the kids enjoy the night and the Harry Potter books and let the grown ups concentrate on something important.

97 posted on 10/23/2006 2:30:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: DouglasKC

Doug, if you are married, you are probably wearing a wedding ring. That was a pagan invention and a pagan practice. Does the Bible tell you to wear a wedding ring?


98 posted on 10/23/2006 2:44:13 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: DouglasKC
FYI, the Catholic Church built upon what already existed. It did not destroy. Throughout history it has met people where they are and it has given new meaning to old practices. It has, through its good works, caused a revoltuion within the form of what it encountered naturally. There is an old axiom that Grace builds upon nature. That is all the Catholic Church has done.

And it is routinely trashed for having done it proving the truth of another old axiom- No good deed goes unpunished.

99 posted on 10/23/2006 2:49:51 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: BLS

I do. There is plenty of evidence He ws born on the 25


100 posted on 10/23/2006 2:53:56 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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