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Ancient Latin Translation of Psalms Found in Irish Bog [Follow-up, it isn't Psalm 83]
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=108654 ^ | 30 July 06 | Ezra HaLevi

Posted on 07/29/2006 8:29:22 PM PDT by Blogger

Ancient Latin Translation of Psalms Found in Irish Bog 01:24 Jul 30, '06 / 5 Av 5766 by Ezra HaLevi

Archaeologists in Ireland found an ancient Latin translation of the Psalms of King David last week. Which Psalm the book was open to when preserved in the Irish bog has been a subject of confusion.

(file photo) The ancient book was discovered in a bog by a construction worker who spotted it while driving the shovel of his backhoe into an area nearby. The approximately 20-page book has been dated to the years 800-1000.

It was initially reported that Latin Vulgate version of the book was opened to Psalm 83, which in the Hebrew Tanach exhorts G-d to “not hold Yourself silent” as the nations plot against Israel – explicitly mentioning Edom, Ishmael and the residents of Philistia and Tyre.

It turns out, however, that the Vulgate uses a different numbering of the chapters than the Hebrew Bible and the chapter that was actually facing outwards was not Psalm 83.

It was then reported that the visible text on the bog book is from the seventh verse of Psalm 82, which reads: "But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler."

Finally, the the Director of Ireland's museum Patrick F. Wallace said in a statement Friday that it was actually Psalm 84 that was exposed. He said that the original announcement had “led to misconceptions about the revealed wording. It is hoped that this clarification will serve comfort to anyone worried by earlier reports of the content of the text.”

The words of Psalm 84 are as follows: 1. For the conductor, on the gittith, of the sons of Korah, a song. 2. How beloved are Your dwelling places, O L-rd of Hosts! 3. My soul yearns, yea, it pines for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh pray fervently to the living G-d. 4. Even a bird found a house and a swallow her nest, where she placed her chicks upon Your altars, O Lord of Hosts, my King and my G-d. 5. Fortunate are those who stay in Your house; they will continually praise You forever. 6. Fortunate is the man who has strength in You, in whose heart are the highways. 7. Transgressors in the valley of Baka (weeping) make it into a fountain; also with blessings they enwrap [their] Teacher. 8. They go from host to host; he will appear to G-d in Zion. 9. O L-rd, G-d of Hosts, hearken to my prayer; bend Your ear, O G-d of Jacob, forever. 10. See our shield, O G-d, and look at the face of Your anointed. 11. For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand; I chose to sit on the threshold of the house of My G-d rather than dwell in tents of wickedness. 12. For a sun and a shield is the L-rd G-d; the L-rd will give grace and glory; He will not withhold good from those who go with sincerity. 13. O L-rd of Hosts, fortunate is the man who trusts in You.

The Psalm is recited by many Jews at the beginning of the afternoon prayers on a daily basis. The Valley of Weeping can be read as the Bekaa Valley, one of the areas focused upon in Hizbullah attacks since Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon six years ago. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has suggested that Israel cede the area to Lebanon, allowing Hizbullah to declare victory.


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KEYWORDS: bog; bookofpsalms; godsgravesglyphs; psalm; psalm83; psalter
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Thought I would post the follow up here...
1 posted on 07/29/2006 8:29:26 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Faith; truthandlife; xzins; Quix

FYI


2 posted on 07/29/2006 8:29:53 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
A followup, so far, seven topics about this find.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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3 posted on 07/29/2006 8:32:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Blogger

BTTT


4 posted on 07/29/2006 8:32:42 PM PDT by lunarbicep (Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain)
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From Latin Vulgate Bible

1 in finem pro torcularibus filiis Core psalmus 2 quam dilecta tabernacula tua Domine virtutum 3 concupiscit et defecit anima mea in atria Domini cor meum et caro mea exultavit in Deum vivum 4 etenim passer invenit sibi; domum et turtur nidum sibi ubi ponat pullos suos altaria tua Domine virtutum rex meus et Deus meus 5 beati qui habitant in domo tua in saecula saeculorum laudabunt te diapsalma

6 beatus vir cui est auxilium abs te ascensiones in corde suo disposuit 7 in valle lacrimarum in loco quem posuit 8 etenim benedictiones dabit legis dator ibunt de virtute in virtutem videbitur Deus deorum in Sion 9 Domine Deus virtutum exaudi orationem meam auribus percipe Deus Iacob diapsalma 10 protector noster aspice Deus et respice in faciem christi tui

11 quia melior est dies una in atriis tuis super milia elegi abiectus esse in domo Dei mei magis quam habitare in tabernaculis peccatorum 12 quia misericordiam et veritatem diligit; Deus gratiam et gloriam dabit Dominus 13 non privabit bonis eos qui ambulant in innocentia Domine virtutum beatus vir qui sperat in te

5 posted on 07/29/2006 8:43:34 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Blogger

Romans Discover Bogging Before Al Gore Invented Blogging


6 posted on 07/29/2006 8:47:09 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Romans Discover Bogging Before Al Gore Invented Blogging

LOL!!!

7 posted on 07/29/2006 8:51:34 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Blogger

When and why did it become fashionable to write God as G-d? Pretty stupid and, frankly, it seems disrespectful to me.


8 posted on 07/29/2006 8:55:02 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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It's a Jewish practice, that has also been adopted by some Christians as well.


9 posted on 07/29/2006 8:55:36 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Blogger

Thanks.

BTW, periodically for seemingly no reason, my whole FR Explorer window goes black. If I want to see any text, I have to highlight the whole are.

Now I'm typing in a black window and the little totally verticle lines aof white are appearing where the text should be. Strange.


10 posted on 07/29/2006 9:01:22 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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Actually, it's a form of hyper respect.


11 posted on 07/29/2006 9:02:27 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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It's a Jewish practice, that has also been adopted by some Christians as well.

Thanks for the explanation. Makes no sense to me. It's almost as though one is ashamed to discuss God openly, like one has to hide behind a semi-falsehood in the same way people semi-disguise bad words by substituting symbols for some letters.

If one loves God, why hide it?

12 posted on 07/29/2006 9:02:59 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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I think it's more out of respect for the Name of God. But I can see why you would think that.


13 posted on 07/29/2006 9:04:01 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Quix
Actually, it's a form of hyper respect.

Maybe folks who do it think so. To me it conveys almost a sense of shame or false modesty.

14 posted on 07/29/2006 9:04:08 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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To: Pyro7480
But I can see why you would think that.

Thanks. I appreciate your understanding. :)

15 posted on 07/29/2006 9:05:21 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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To: Wolfstar

I'm confident God konws their hearts and receives it as an honoring thing to Him.

The attitude of the heart is usally a, if not THE key thing with The Lord, imho.


16 posted on 07/29/2006 9:07:36 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: Wolfstar

I have heard that because Jewish people do not know for sure how the name of God YHWH is pronounced, they do not attempt to do so but in Scripture will substitute LORD for YHWH instead. The word for Lord by the way is Adonai. I believe it is an extension of this respect for the name of God that this practice was instituted. Far from shame, they are doing it to honor the Lord.


17 posted on 07/29/2006 9:08:39 PM PDT by Blogger
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I believe it is an extension of this respect for the name of God that this practice was instituted. Far from shame, they are doing it to honor the Lord.

I understand, and don't wish to disrespect the religious practices of others. But it makes zero sense to me. G-d could also easily be taken as an abbreviation for ---damn.

And Quix, while it's true God knows our hearts, we must operate here in the physical world and are not privileged to know the hearts of strangers. God is a beautiful word, a beautiful concept, a comfort to pray to, and I just can't grasp wanting to hide any part of Him.

18 posted on 07/29/2006 9:44:10 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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To: FJ290

Follow up ping.


19 posted on 07/29/2006 10:01:01 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Pyro7480

What is the real word for God that the word G-d is replacing?


20 posted on 07/29/2006 11:45:52 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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