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Why Calvin Is Cool; An Infomercial for Calvinism
The Internet Monk ^ | Michael Spencer

Posted on 04/20/2006 11:16:00 AM PDT by Gamecock

  Why Calvin Is Cool 

An Infomercial for Calvinism

by Michael Spencer

I know that's Calvin Coolidge, but if I put a picture of John Calvin up there, most people won't read the column. The hostility towards Calvinism is growing here in Bibleland. Note the intrepid Dave Hunt's attempt to vanquish the Calvinistic dragon with his new book, What Love Is This?, perhaps more aptly titled, What Research Is This? Norman Geisler unsuccessfully sought to forge a via media in Chosen, But Free and Gregory Boyd and the Openness Boys (great name for a band) have been blasting away for several years now against the monstrosity of the Calvinistic God and and Augustinian theodicy. I recently attended a debate between Calvinist and Arminian seminary profs, and I have to say that Jerry Walls was vewy, vewy upset that God could save everyone and apparently isn't going to do so. He was also mad that John Piper said he would still love God even if one of his sons wasn't elect. And, of course, C.S. LEWIS WASN'T A CALVINIST! So I think silent Cal is a better choice than Geneva John. These are dangerous times. You could possibly get burned at the stake. (That's a joke.)

I've never been naive about what people thought about Calvinism. It's always been controversial, hence that little party called the Reformation and the counter-party called the Remonstrance and the rave known as Revivalism. In my kid's history textbooks, Calvinists and Puritans are witchburners. Period. When I began hanging out with Calvinistic Southern Baptists in the "Founders" movement, it had some of the trappings of a secret society. There were lots of people keeping their heads low and their mouths shut in order to survive in Southern Baptist land. And at my current assignment, rumors of my Calvinism have been my only real trouble in ten years, and that even though the founder of our school was an out and out card-carrying five-pointer with no shame about saying so.

A few years ago our state denominational newspaper discovered Southern Baptist Calvinism and went on a ten-year windmill tilt against it. It was enormous fun to read what Arminian revivalistic evangelists had to say about Calvinism, based upon their extensive experience and research. (I concluded the in-depth tape series of Jimmy Swaggart on Calvinism was behind it all.) I was surprised to discover that Southern Baptists had no Calvinistic roots or influences (which seemed odd given the overwhelming historical record of just exactly that fact.) I learned that Spurgeon was not really a Calvinist. (It seems particularly galling  for Arminians to come to grips with this one.) I learned that despite all those years of preaching, I was against missions and evangelism, and that I could not preach the free offer of the Gospel or tell people that Jesus loved them. (The inability of these experts to differentiate between Calvinism and hyper-Calvinism is basic to everything they say. What a heretic I'd been!)  And I learned that despite my cheery outlook, I am really obsessed with predestination, and have no real good reason to get up in the morning. (Again, if one wants to discuss fatalism, go to the Muslims.) All this free education came to me week after week, courtesy of those who hated Calvinism and feared Calvinists. And all totally false.

Such misunderstandings continue today, though the articulate writings of people like Michael Horton, John Piper and James White are making a difference. I am now meeting people who say they are Calvinists, and really probably aren't, but they identify with or admire someone who is. Hey, you gotta start somewhere. Even so, I still know that I could lose my job over being a Calvinist, and I know that I will always have to answer ridiculous questions from Arminians who have no idea that they are Arminians or even have a theology. As long as they read Jabez and Left Behind and like Joyce Meyers and T.D. Jakes, they feel normal.

So how can I say it's cool to be a Calvinist?

1) Calvinism is that rare and wonderful thing: classical, orthodox Christianity. Evangelicals are selling the theological store right and left. I am really grateful for orthodox non-Calvinists like Ravi Zacharias, because the trend on that side of the fence is to sell out the essentials. Omnipotence and omniscience are in trouble. The authority of scripture is in trouble. Biblical worship is in trouble. Postmodern Arminianism seems ready to jettison anything that stands in the way of intellectual acceptance by the cultural elites or the potential drawing of a crowd. Calvinists have their problems, but going the openness route or denying the authority of scripture are not dangers in the near future. That's cool.

2) Calvinism is fired up about missions. Contrary to the press releases, it is a bunch of Calvinists who are fueling the missions movement among the college age Christian community. The influence of John Piper is massive, and honest Arminians admit it (as they did in the debate I observed.). His book, The Supremacy of God in Missions, has become highly influential in frontier missions circles. Louie Giglio's Passion movement is God-centered and missions-centered and he has said Piper will always speak at those gatherings. The supreme optimism of Calvinism that God has a people to be called and saved in every nation, and that a sovereign God can move in the Muslim world, is winning the hearts and minds of many young missionaries. Check out www.frontiers.org and see what I mean. That is very cool.

3) Calvinism is the strongest resistance to the excesses and errors of the church growth movement. You could deny the Trinity in most pulpits today and not get the kind of reaction you will get if you question the tenets of seeker-sensitive church growth methods. These days Calvinists are less unified on questions of worship and church life than on other areas of theology, but the reformed camp is still the loudest source of resistance to the church growth pragmatism that has overwhelmed evangelicalism. Reformed writers are engaging in a solid examination of Biblical worship and the current crisis and offering a God-centered alternative to the man-centered carnival that is engulfing our churches. Especially see the cool work of Marva Dawn, John Macarthur, James Boice and Michael Horton.

4) Calvinism is contending for the Gospel. Now that will get a few tomatoes headed my way, but I am not saying that Calvinists are the only Christians, nor that Calvinists are the only ones contending for the Gospel. I know that is not the case. I am saying that Calvinists have a passion for the Gospel, particularly for soteriology. There is remarkable unity among Calvinists on the doctrine of total depravity, the primacy of the work of the Trinity in salvation, the effectiveness of the substitutionary work of Christ, the priority of regeneration over faith and the grace of God over all. On the Solas, Calvinists stand strong, even stronger than on the five-points, where there is considerable diversity on the extent of the atonement and the nature of perseverance. The sad fact is that many of our evangelical Arminian friends cannot say the Solas with certainty of an "amen" from their team. The Gospel is under attack on virtually every side within evangelicalism. Some of these are the same controversies that preceded and followed the Reformation, but many are the attacks of post-modernism, pragmatism, multi-culturalism, and liberalism, smuggled in through evangelicalism's fetish with popularity, publishing, and media. It is refreshing to hear a seminary president like Calvinist Al Mohler consistently contend for the Gospel on Larry King Live in this age of pluralism and tolerance. It's not an accident. In Calvinistic circles, it's cool to fight for what others are surrendering.

5) Calvinism is warmly God-centered. Again, hold the bottle throwing. I know, I know. I know there are many non-Calvinists who are God-centered, but I think you have to notice that Calvinism is God-centered by definition, and it simply makes a marvelous difference. Look at the music of Steve Green, the sermons of Al Martin or the books of Douglas Wilson, John Piper, Jerry Bridges or R.C. Sproul. Whether in evangelism, worship, or the Christian life, Calvinists have a suspicion of humanism that is healthy and helpful in retaining the God-centered nature of the Christian faith. It is a marvelous simplicity in Calvinism that says anything we do or contemplate or consider must first put the sovereign God of the Bible as the reference, goal, and center of everything. The vision of God that animated Luther and Calvin, Spurgeon and Edwards is the same vision that is animating Calvinism today. The impulse that is causing havoc in evangelical circles today is a dethroning of God, and the resulting mess seems to be headed down the path that leads to the generic, new age, feelings-centered spirituality that grows like kudzu in America. It's cool to be God-centered, and there is no area of contemporary Christianity where the air breathed in Piper's The Pleasures of God or Carson's The Gagging of God or Packer's Knowing God isn't badly needed.

There's lots more I could say. Calvinism is evangelistic, when practiced and not just debated. (Ask those Korean Presbyterians.) Calvinism has a wonderful reverence for history. Calvinism has the best approach to cultural issues. Calvinism isn't detoured into fads like Jabez, Experiencing God, or Left Behind. Calvinists have Spurgeon. Calvinists are great apologists. Calvinists aren't on television. Well, D. James Kennedy on TBN, but thank God for that. Calvinists have the best preachers. If Benny Hinn were a Calvinist, he'd have better hair. I think I should stop.

Are there negatives? Certainly, but this is an infomercial, so I am supposed to say all those really fast at the end so you won't hear them. They would include: Calvinists debate too much and do too little. Calvinists don't start enough churches. Calvinists fight about the stupidest things. Calvinists go overboard on anything they are right about. Calvinists have more than their share of loons. Calvinists spend too much on books. I'd better stop. Even with all this, trust me, it's cool to be a Calvinist.

Sometimes Calvinists spend too much time trying to argue their friends into Calvinism. That is a waste of time. I don't want to convert you. I just wanted to brag, and perhaps suggest that in this postmodern swamp we are living in, we might want to remember that all the criticism of Calvinism within evangelicalism is coming from a house that needs to get itself in order before it throws rocks at its own team.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; History; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: calvin; calvinism; cool; fivesolas; notacatholic; reformedandhappy; savedbygracealone; thereformationrocks
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To: xzins

Doesn't look like I have missed much. Some things never change.

I have been busy, very busy, too busy to spend much time here.


241 posted on 04/22/2006 7:54:31 PM PDT by Jerry_M (I can only say that I am a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone for salvation. -- Gen. Robt E. Lee)
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To: Jerry_M; xzins; blue-duncan
I have been busy, very busy, too busy to spend much time here.

Well as long as you don't say that you have been as busy as a one legged man in a keister kicking contest, you'll be ok.

242 posted on 04/22/2006 9:50:35 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: P-Marlowe

LOLOL!


243 posted on 04/22/2006 9:55:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Gamecock

Some people are so offended by "total depravity" that they don't get to the other four points. I read that the denizens of the Evil (more into killing babies) Party, at their '04 Convention, refused to sing the "wretch like me" verse of "Amazing Grace" - they had other words as substitutes. LOL if it weren't so sad and silly...


244 posted on 04/22/2006 10:13:55 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: rdb3

"PetroniusMaximus, you're a tough legalist, aren't you?"

Go on. I'm listening...


245 posted on 04/22/2006 10:29:22 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Religion Moderator

The Thesaurus is your friend.


246 posted on 04/22/2006 11:04:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Go on. I'm listening...

No need. My question was succinctly asked.


This is a ch__ch. What's missing?

247 posted on 04/22/2006 11:45:29 PM PDT by rdb3 (What it is is what it was.)
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To: rdb3

Yeah, but I did't get it.

(sorry, being a little dense here)


248 posted on 04/22/2006 11:52:40 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jude24; alpha-8-25-02; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands
As a Calvinist, I certainly believe that it is accurate, but it is either mistaken or duplicitious to conflate Calvinism with the fundamentals of Christianity.

Fundamentals??? What fundamentals??? That grace is bestowed through the Eucharist? That people make decisions using their free will to trust in the Lord and if they don't its their own fault? That salvation is through the Church? Are those the fundamentals you're talking about?

If you stepped back and looked at this objectively, you'll find Calvinism is consistently the Christian theological position that is attacked on this board. History of these discussions shows the Orthodox, Catholics and many Protestants to be on one side with the Calvinists on the other. The few Calvinists here who defend the position, including myself, are not duplicitous or insincere but trying to point out the significant problems in the synergistic model which most belief structures now subscribe to.

While you might wish to try to straddle the fence, truth of the matter is that you can't with Calvinism unless you want to go off to a corner and shut up. The difference in theology is so profound it sparked some of the greatest debates within the Church/church and lead to the Reformation. Either it's right or it's wrong. While ecumenicalism is sweeping the Christian world, these same people never have and never will look upon Calvinists favorably.

Calvinism isn't an argument that stems from "insecurity". It's an argument that stems from logic and scripture. It would be nice to simply sweep all this under the rug but the synergistic model is simply not true. Sometimes we must count the cost.

249 posted on 04/23/2006 3:02:52 AM PDT by HarleyD ("...even the one whom He will choose, He will bring near Himself." Num 16:5)
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To: HarleyD; jude24; alpha-8-25-02; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan

Passionately spoken Harley, but I think you continue to miss jude's point.


250 posted on 04/23/2006 5:01:23 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Jerry_M

In some ways.

I have cut back my time considerably, too, due to church obligations.

But, there is far more peace on these threads than in the past, and there's no inability to speak what's on one's heart.


251 posted on 04/23/2006 5:09:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Corin Stormhands; HarleyD; jude24; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan

WHAT IS THE POINT?

5 SOLAS!


252 posted on 04/23/2006 5:12:29 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02; jude24

it's all there in jude's post


253 posted on 04/23/2006 5:14:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; jude24; alpha-8-25-02; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan
"Passionately spoken Harley, but I think you continue to miss jude's point."

Passionate?!? Me?!? Let's not hurdle insults. :O)

If I understand Jude's point, he feels there is a certain level of insecurity in the argument that "Calvinism is the gospel". I don't believe I've ever seen anyone stating there is a certain level of insecurity with Catholics to state Catholicism is the true Church. I'm sure that would be good for about 350+ posts.

While I have disagreements with John Calvin's writings and parts of his doctrine, I find he’s in basic agreement with the teachings of the western church-as it use to be-although many are in denial. There are only the two views; the Orthodox (synergism) and the Reformers (monergism). The rest are confused.

One of us (synergist or monergist) is holding heretical views and the other correct doctrine. It isn’t out of place for a Calvinist to say Calvinism is the gospel. Certainly Calvinists have enough people telling us we’re not preaching the gospel.

254 posted on 04/23/2006 10:36:26 AM PDT by HarleyD ("...even the one whom He will choose, He will bring near Himself." Num 16:5)
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To: HarleyD
Passionate?!? Me?!? Let's not hurdle insults. :O)

Thanks for clarifying that. I'd hate to have to pull out the Book of Church Order on you and charge you with being unfrozen chosen.

(It's a joke ya'll)

255 posted on 04/23/2006 11:09:42 AM PDT by Gamecock ( "I save dead people" -- God (Eph 2:5)
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To: HarleyD; Corin Stormhands
I don't believe I've ever seen anyone stating there is a certain level of insecurity with Catholics to state Catholicism is the true Church.

Apparently we've never met. I'm Jude24, the friendly neighborhood magesterial Protestant who is comfortable with the whole of Church History (it is, after all, my own history) including Chrystostom, Augustine, and Aquinas, but rejects the claim Rome has to universality. (What about the Orthodox?) And I've been explicit on that point.

There are only the two views; the Orthodox (synergism) and the Reformers (monergism). The rest are confused.

Nothing like setting up a self-serving dichotomy and making that your standard of orthodox doctrine. It's not as though the Calvinists, alleged monergists that they are, believe that humans are completely automata. To some extent we must cooperate in the work of grace just by virtue of being free agents.

One of us (synergist or monergist) is holding heretical views and the other correct doctrine.

And another drive-by false dictotomy. Even granting your synergist/monergist dictomy (which I do not), it is quite posssible - indeed, quite likely that both are wrong. Further, "wrong" does not equate to "heretical." "Heretical" is a term of art referring to a denial of a fundamental doctrine of Christianity. Given the fact that almost every orthodox Christian denomination rejects "monergism," even if they are wrong to do so, clearly it cannot be "heretical." The Catholics, the Orthodox, the Wesleyans, the Pentacostals, some Baptists, the Plymouth Brethren - all these churches reject "monergism." Now, I have varying disagreements with all of these denomination - some quite severe - but I can't call a single one of them "heretical." Nor can you.

Using frantic rhetoric like "heretical" and setting up strawmen false dichotomies destroys the grounds from which you debate. It gives you no credibility outside of your chorus of yes-men, but leads any fair-minded observer to wonder if you really understand what you're talking about or if you're just covering your own insecurities.

(For the moderator's sake: I'm trying to thread a fine line between a correction and a personal attack. Permission for a little leeway.)

256 posted on 04/23/2006 11:10:29 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: HarleyD; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands
Let's not hurdle insults. :O)

Nor let us throw-up to conclusions. :>)

257 posted on 04/23/2006 11:50:23 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: HarleyD; jude24; alpha-8-25-02; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan
It isn’t out of place for a Calvinist to say Calvinism is the gospel.

John Calvin wouldn't say it. In fact, I think he'd be rather appalled.

And speaking of Paul, he wouldn't say it either.

Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
I Corinthians 1:12-15

And, while we're at it, you said:

While I have disagreements with John Calvin's writings and parts of his doctrine...

And then you said:

It isn’t out of place for a Calvinist to say Calvinism is the gospel.

So...

If Calvinism IS the gospel, with which parts of the gospel do you have disagreements?

...oops

258 posted on 04/23/2006 12:28:07 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: xzins; HarleyD; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
We'll Hurdle the Globe is one of my favorite missionary hymns.

oh, wait...

259 posted on 04/23/2006 12:29:20 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; HarleyD; jude24; alpha-8-25-02; xzins; blue-duncan
If Calvinism IS the gospel, with which parts of the gospel do you have disagreements? ...oops


260 posted on 04/23/2006 12:35:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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