[Bohemund]

Your lists were rife with inaccuracies. Shouldn't they read:

Orthodox/Catholic:

1) Not sure if they're saved or not Do not presume that they will go to Heaven

2) Must do good works to be saved Faith without works is dead.

3) Asks the saints to intercede for them May ask saints to pray for them, but pray to God.

4) Have to constantly be filled with "God's grace" through the Eucharist Honored to obey Jesus' instructions at the Last Supper

5) No plan of God for one's lifeDo not pretend to know God's mind

Reformed:

1) God loves me and has guarentee my salvation God loves the elect and has guaranteed their salvation, but hates the rest of humanity

2) I'm saved by what our Lord Jesus has done Only the elect are saved by Jesus' works

3) I can boldly go directly to the throne of God the Father because of His Son

4) God has rebirth me and sealed me with His Holy SpiritGod has rebirthed the elect and sealed only them with the Holy Spirit

5) God has a perfect plan for my life to give me a future and a hope God has a perfect plan for the elect, but created the rest of humanity to be damned

[HarleyD]

There were few inaccuracies. I noticed you changed the wording around a bit to provide a more positive spin but it is still the same thing.

Orthodox/Catholic:

HD - 1) Not sure if they're saved or not
Bohemund - 1) Do not presume that they will go to Heaven
Comment-Same difference. I would add that Orthodox/Catholics do not presume to go to Heaven unless the Church deems it to be so. Certainly they have a laundry list of saints who they believe have gone to heaven.

HD - 2) Must do good works to be saved.
Bohemund - 2) Faith without works is dead.
Comment - We're in agreement. Nothig wrong with what I wrote. You believe you must illustrate your faith though works.

HD - 3) Asks the saints to intercede for them
Bohemund - 3) May ask saints to pray for them, but pray to God.
Comment - Same thing.

HD - 4) Have to constantly be filled with "God's grace" through the Eucharist
Bohemund - 4) Honored to obey Jesus' instructions at the Last Supper
Comment - Not quite Bohemund. As you know I'm quite correct on this.

HD - 5) No plan of God for one's life
Bohemund - 5) Do not pretend to know God's mind
Comment - Never said we know God's mind. Simply stated that you do not believe in God directing your life.

Reformed:

HD - 1) God loves me and has guarantee my salvation
Bohemund - 1) God loves the elect and has guaranteed their salvation, but hates the rest of humanity
Comment - Partially correct. Scripture reference: 2Th 2:13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

HD - 2) I'm saved by what our Lord Jesus has done
Bohemund - 2) Only the elect are saved by Jesus' works
Comment - One would think this would be obvious.

HD - 3) I can boldly go directly to the throne of God the Father because of His Son
Comment - Ageement

HD - 4) God has rebirth me and sealed me with His Holy Spirit
Bohemund - 4) God has rebirthed the elect and sealed only them with the Holy Spirit
Comment - 2Co 1:21-22 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.

HD - 5) God has a perfect plan for my life to give me a future and a hope
Bohemund - 5) God has a perfect plan for the elect, but created the rest of humanity to be damned
Comment - Psa 92:6-7 A senseless man has no knowledge, Nor does a stupid man understand this: That when the wicked sprouted up like grass And all who did iniquity flourished, It was only that they might be destroyed forevermore.

[MarMema]

LOL. My personal thanks on a great post.

[Cronos]

I liked Bohemund's refutal so much, I'm going to repeat it:

Your lists were rife with inaccuracies. Shouldn't they read:

Orthodox/Catholic:

1) Not sure if they're saved or not Do not presume that they will go to Heaven

2) Must do good works to be saved Faith without works is dead.

3) Asks the saints to intercede for them May ask saints to pray for them, but pray to God.

4) Have to constantly be filled with "God's grace" through the Eucharist Honored to obey Jesus' instructions at the Last Supper

5) No plan of God for one's lifeDo not pretend to know God's mind

Reformed:

1) God loves me and has guarentee my salvation God loves the elect and has guaranteed their salvation, but hates the rest of humanity

2) I'm saved by what our Lord Jesus has done Only the elect are saved by Jesus' works

3) I can boldly go directly to the throne of God the Father because of His Son

4) God has rebirth me and sealed me with His Holy SpiritGod has rebirthed the elect and sealed only them with the Holy Spirit

5) God has a perfect plan for my life to give me a future and a hope God has a perfect plan for the elect, but created the rest of humanity to be damned