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MOUNTAIN VIEWS: NEW POPE TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON REFORMS IN CATHOLIC CHURCH?
Niagara Falls Reporter ^ | July 26, 2005 | John Hanchette

Posted on 07/27/2005 1:05:40 PM PDT by GF.Regis

OLEAN -- Various columnists for this paper already covered the making of a new pope last spring to a fare-thee-well, driving the tormented editor to declare an informal moratorium on writing further copy about the pomp and circumstance surrounding Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger's ascension to Benedict XVI.

We complied. So, in general, did the rest of the American print media, which these days, sadly, are trained by watching too much television to ignore anything that doesn't photograph well, or lend itself to colorful video, or where religion is concerned doesn't contain elements of movement and ceremony.

But in recent weeks, I've noticed a few short items creeping onto inside pages about the Holy Father's vision -- predicted here and elsewhere -- of a venerable Roman Catholic Church that more resembles the one of four decades ago instead of a global organization struggling to accept elements of modernity.

Starting the first week in October, a synod of Catholic bishops from around the world will meet in Rome to plot the future of the church under Ratzinger's leadership. A hefty working text has already been prepared for official consideration, and some sections have sporadically leaked to the Vatican press -- enough to suggest that Benedict XVI has no intention of mellowing from the hardrock conservative positions he held in his previous position as Prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, a Vatican office tracing its pedigree directly back to the Inquisition.

Bottom line: Pope John XXIII's liberal changes stemming from the Vatican II conclave to take into account this planet's social and cultural and scientific developments not previously sanctioned by Rome are in deep trouble.

There are some key words in the working text that constitute predictable indicators -- some superficial, some profound. The "translations" below are my predictions, not actual descriptions in the Vatican document of suggestions.

Parish priests will be urged to prevent "profane" types of music from being played during Mass. Translation: Lose the guitars, flutes and drums, boys. It's back to Gregorian chants (which are specifically mentioned in the aforesaid text as more appropriate).

The tabernacle, a large container -- usually bejeweled and gold-plated -- which holds the wheat wafer Host that devout Catholics believe is the actual (not representative) body of Christ after consecration, must be given a "prominent" position on the altar instead of the corner or side repository popular after Vatican II. Translation: Altars, with the tabernacle right in the center as unmistakable focal point, will be turned back around to allow the priest to celebrate Mass in relative solitude with his back to the congregation, instead of facing and speaking directly to the faithful as Vatican II decreed.

Lay persons will participate in the Mass only in a "minimal" fashion. Translation: No more reading of Scripture lessons by members of the congregation, or carrying of the wine and water up the aisle to facilitate Holy Communion, or letting the non-ordained help distribute the Eucharist during that sacrament. Priests only, please, just like in the old days.

During "liturgical gatherings," Latin will be relied upon as the universal tongue instead of English and other regional languages. Translation: A return during celebration of Mass to the Latin liturgy, viewed as confusing mumbo-jumbo by many Catholics before Vatican II, cannot be far behind.

Priests should not be "showmen." Translation: All those brave fathers in Central and South America and Africa and elsewhere who have the courage to question corrupt and dictatorial governments, or the temerity to suggest social and cultural reform, will be muzzled.

The working document, by the way, singles out Catholic politicians who support abortion and divorced persons who remarry for particular criticism and specific proscription against receiving the sacrament of Holy Communion without first making a true confession to a priest. This will also affect various areas of the planet where an acute shortage of priests has triggered the practice of taking Communion after making one's peace with God in one's mind because the preparatory sacrament of confession simply isn't available.

Some Catholics, particularly elderly ones, would welcome these changes, whether they actually occur or not. Many of them hate the Vatican II reforms. I was sitting next to my late beloved and curmudgeonly father in the early 1970s when a bearded guitar-wielder first strode to the altar to play some inspirational song of hope. My father actually stood up in the pew to leave before my mother dragged him back down to the kneeling bench.

I also secretly prized during those days the frequent look of repugnance on his face during the newly instituted "kiss of peace," which soon evolved into a hearty-handshake-with-those-nearby section of the Mass. My father was one of the friendliest gentlemen on earth; he just liked to reserve his handshakes for persons he knew, or trusted, or was happy to see.

Casting aside all the paternal nostalgia, I'm wary of Benedict XVI's plans. This is a man whose mind sees cultural development as conspiracy.

He still condemns the use of condoms to fight AIDS in Africa. He's already bounced, without adequate explanation, the respected editor of a liberal Jesuit magazine in this country.

Many Catholics are unaware that Ratzinger even criticized the immensely popular Harry Potter books as harmful to children.

In a letter of praise two years ago to a narrow-minded German critic of author J.K. Rowling, then-Cardinal Ratzinger described her astoundingly successful books as "subtle seductions" for youths and works that "act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly."

Get real. I personally think J.K. Rowling deserves some Nobel-level award for becoming a one-woman assault squad on illiteracy. Do you know how hard it is to pry kids away from the TV or iPod or cell phone and get them to actually read a book? The numbers are there. Rowling actually has children reading again, using their TV-stunted imaginations anew to convert print into thought, to transform type into imagery. Her harmless books are stimulating and superbly written, and most children understand they are merely interesting works of fantasy about magic and good and evil and pretend sorcery -- stuff kids are intrigued by and will find anyway.

If the new pope really wants to do some good in this vein, he should take a gander at the hideously violent and often demonically promotional TV fare that is available to the majority of toddlers and youngsters in this country. Talk then about conditioning senses and warping vulnerable minds.

In his years as a promising priest and bishop, Ratzinger was viewed as somewhat of a liberal and reform-minded theologian. He once wrote a short book that viewed Vatican II with enthusiasm and promise. In his previous post as protector of the faith, however, the native of Germany became more and more conservative until he was known and routinely described as "God's Rottweiler" -- a ferocious defender of venerable Vatican views and practices.

In an excellent article in the July 25 edition of the "New Yorker" magazine, Anthony Grafton describes him in this role as "a snapping guard dog who threatens all dissidents with appropriate punishment." Ratzinger, writes Grafton, "was a censor, and he did his job well."

Since last April, Catholic writers around the world, particularly in Europe and North America, in article after article, have speculated that Ratzinger will realize he is now the spiritual head of the oldest and largest religious organization on the planet and -- as the "New Yorker" writer puts it -- will now "show a milder countenance in his new office." Not very likely. As Grafton writes, Ratzinger has repeatedly denounced "the intellectuals who confused social reform with Christianity" and is at heart himself fearful about intellectual conclusions.

"The intellect," he once told a gathering of about 800 priests, "does not always grant vision, but provides the conditions for intellectual games, and artfully conjures syntheses into existence where there is really nothing but contradiction." Only faith, believes the new pope, will abide.

I agree with author Grafton. A prelate who's fearful that Harry Potter books will block the spiritual growth of young Christians "may find it harder than he thinks to take on modernity in all its sprawling strangeness."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hanchette, a professor of journalism at St. Bonaventure University, is a former editor of the Niagara Gazette and a Pulitzer Prize-winning national correspondent. He was a founding editor of USA Today and was recently named by Gannett as one of the Top 10 reporters of the past 25 years. He can be contacted via e-mail at Hanchette6@aol.com.


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To: ninenot

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a3.htm


241 posted on 07/28/2005 2:52:45 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: nanetteclaret

I understand.
But God is present in the Eucharist.
The Eucharist in on the altar, in front of the priest, and that doesn't change no matter which way the altar is oriented in the church.
It doesn't seem to me as though the priest is turning his back on God at all.

But I can see that this is very important to some folks, and they should be accomodated.


242 posted on 07/28/2005 2:55:58 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: GF.Regis

bump


243 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:41 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: bornacatholic

Are you trying to tell me that the Last Supper was a Mass? If so, cite, please...

Citations about the first Eucharist are NOT the same as cites about the first Mass...


244 posted on 07/28/2005 3:52:36 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot
Doctrine Concerning The Sacrifice Of The Mass

That the ancient, complete and in every way perfect faith and teaching regarding the great mystery of the Eucharist in the Catholic Church may be retained, and with the removal of errors and heresies may be preserved in its purity, the holy, ecumenical and general Council of Trent, lawfully assembled in the Holy Ghost, the same legates of the Apostolic See presiding, instructed by the light of the Holy Ghost, teaches, declares and orders to be preached to the faithful the following concerning it, since it is the true and only sacrifice.

CHAPTER I

THE INSTITUTION OF THE MOST HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS

Since under the former Testament, according to the testimony of the Apostle Paul, there was no perfection because of the weakness of the Levitical priesthood, there was need, God the Father of mercies so ordaining, that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchisedech,[1] our Lord Jesus Christ, who might perfect and lead to perfection as many as were to be sanctified. He, therefore, our God and Lord, though He was by His death about to offer Himself once upon the altar of the cross to God the Father that He might there accomplish an eternal redemption, nevertheless, that His priesthood might not come to an end with His death,[2] at the last supper, on the night He was betrayed, that He might leave to His beloved spouse the Church a visible sacrifice, such as the nature of man requires, whereby that bloody sacrifice once to be accomplished on the cross might be represented, the memory thereof remain even to the end of the world, and its salutary effects applied to the remission of those sins which we daily commit, declaring Himself constituted a priest forever according to the order of Melchisedech,[3] offered up to God the Father His own body and blood under the form of bread and wine, and under the forms of those same things gave to the Apostles, whom He then made priests of the New Testament, that they might partake, commanding them and their successors in the priesthood by these words to do likewise: Do this in commemoration of me,[4] as the Catholic Church has always understood and taught. For having celebrated the ancient Passover which the multitude of the children of Israel sacrificed in memory of their departure from Egypt,[5] He instituted a new Passover, namely, Himself, to be immolated under visible signs by the Church through the priests in memory of His own passage from this world to the Father, when by the shedding of His blood He redeemed and delivered us from the power of darkness and translated us into his kingdom.[6] And this is indeed that clean oblation which cannot be defiled by any unworthiness or malice on the part of those who offer it; which the Lord foretold by Malachias was to be great among the Gentiles,[7] and which the Apostle Paul has clearly indicated when he says, that they who are defiled by partaking of the table of devils cannot be partakers of the table of the Lord,[8] understanding by table in each case the altar. It is, finally, that [sacrifice] which was prefigured by various types of sacrifices during the period of nature and of the law,[9] which, namely, comprises all the good things signified by them, as being the consummation and perfection of them all.

Catholic Encyclopedia

Liturgy of the Mass

A. Name and Definition

The Mass is the complex of prayers and ceremonies that make up the service of the Eucharist in the Latin rites. As in the case of all liturgical terms the name is less old than the thing. From the time of the first preaching of the Christian Faith in the West, as everywhere, the Holy Eucharist was celebrated as Christ had instituted it at the Last Supper, according to His command, in memory of Him. But it was not till long afterwards that the late Latin name Missa, used at first in a vaguer sense, became the technical and almost exclusive name for this service.

245 posted on 07/28/2005 4:12:44 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: nonsumdignus

Thank you again. I mentioned the Traditional Latin Mass to my hubby. He actually seemed interested. This IS a miracle ;0). Bless you.


246 posted on 07/28/2005 4:15:54 PM PDT by asp1
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To: ninenot
Catholic Encyclopedia. KISS

It is not easy to determine the precise link between the "holy kiss" and the liturgical "kiss of peace", known in Greek from an early date as eirene (i.e. pax, or peace). This latter may be quite primitive, for it meets us first in the description of the liturgy given by St. Justin Martyr (Apol., I, 65), who writes: "When we have completed the prayers we salute one another with a kiss [allelous philemati aspazometha pausamenoi ton euchon], whereupon there is brought to the president bread and a cup of wine." This passage clearly shows that in the middle of the second century the usage already obtained — a usage now claimed as distinctive of the liturgies other than Roman — of exchanging the kiss of peace at the beginning of what we call the Offertory.

*My, my...you are wrong about the Last Supper not being a Mass; and you are wrong about the Kiss of Peace; and you are decidely wrong in your hautiness towards others as re a mere handshake.

Is this how you win others to your cause of advancing "traditionalism?"

To me it seems a cause devoid of charity; a cause seriously deficient in knowledge; a cause mortally wounded by arrogance.

Try a little humility, brother. Shake hands with others even if you imagine them unworthty of you.

It will do you good...

247 posted on 07/28/2005 4:26:38 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: nanetteclaret; kosta50; Hermann the Cherusker; Petrosius; conservonator; FormerLib; Agrarian; ...

I found this to be a very perceptive comment:
"People care which way the priest faces because when he faces the congregation, it's almost as if he's turning his back on God and is more concerned with how he's performing in front of the people. The priest isn't there for our entertainment, he's there to offer up our prayers to God. Many people see a priest's turning his back on God as being very flippant at best and sacrilegious at worst. All of the irreverence that has occurred since is a natural by-product."

Now one would think that the above should lead naturally to an examination of the following passage of Holy Scripture:
Mat 16:18 "...I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

You see no contradiction?

What if we add other things:
Praying with Jews in a Jewish synagogue;
Receiving a blessing from a Hindu lady;
Allowing a statue of a Buddha to be placed on top of the tabernacle on a Catholic altar;
Kissing the Koran;
Permitting a liturgy at which a bare breasted female reads the Epistle?

Still see no contradiction?


248 posted on 07/28/2005 4:28:11 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: k omalley
I am what might be called one of the "older" baby boomers and was in high school when all this happened. The baby boomers really had nothing to do with it. We were very happy with the Mass and the Church. It was our parents' generation which was grumbling about the Church and demanding change.

Like you, I was also in HS (all girls Catholic Academy) when these changes took place. However, no one in my family ever expressed any dissatisfaction with the liturgy. Like most catholics, we questioned nothing.

249 posted on 07/28/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Graves; k omalley
It was our parents' generation which was grumbling about the Church and demanding change.

Nonsense! You're both wrong. Many of the changes we have witnessed, resulted from agenda-driven liberal 'interpretations' of VCII documents. If you read through the VCII Document Archives, you will learn that the Church recommended that Latin be retained, as well as Gregorian Chant. Just read the documents and learn the real truth.

250 posted on 07/28/2005 5:12:59 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Excuse me, but "You're both wrong."
About what?
Or who is both?
My post referred to Nanette Claret's comment, to some Holy Scripture, and to some specific acts of Pope John Paul II photographed for posterity.

Please explain to us who both is and how both are wrong about what.


251 posted on 07/28/2005 5:27:53 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: Graves
Now one would think that the above should lead naturally to an examination of the following passage of Holy Scripture:
Mat 16:18 "...I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

I find it interesting that what you chose to leave out of the quote. The full statement of our Lord was:

17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

252 posted on 07/28/2005 6:00:40 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Yes Petrosius.

I omitted stuff from the passage because I want you folks, EVERYBODY, to focus on where I thing the contradiction is. I recognize that the passage is certainly inclusive of a lot of stuff, but I only wanted the focus to be on what I see as the apparent contradiction between

1) Jesus building a church against which the very gates of hell will not prevail, and
2) A lot of stuff going on that to me comes across as hell prevailing.

I realize that Roman Catholics tend to get all wrapped up in the Petrine primacy. That does not concern me here. What concerns me is the contradiction between what the Church is supposed to stand for and what the Roman Catholic Church has been up to of late. And let me point out that a lot of other denominations have been up to the same sort of stuff, stuff I personally believe to be unspeakable, to be - quite frankly - apostasy.

It amazes me.


253 posted on 07/28/2005 6:33:58 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: ninenot

The thought gives me goosebumps.


254 posted on 07/28/2005 6:37:20 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Graves
What amazes me is that you do not understand the difference between infallibility and impeccability. While infallible, the Church has never claimed impeccability for the pope or her bishops. There have been many sinners within the Catholic Church, even popes. (Remember Peter's denial?) But despite this the Catholic Church has remained faithful to the apostolic teaching. You and I both can both make a litany of such sins and abuses, yet the magisterial teaching of the Church has remained unchanged. What better proof can you have of her infallibility?
255 posted on 07/28/2005 6:54:47 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

This

is

horsedung

"What amazes me is that you do not understand the difference between infallibility and impeccability. While infallible, the Church has never claimed impeccability for the pope or her bishops. There have been many sinners within the Catholic Church, even popes. (Remember Peter's denial?) But despite this the Catholic Church has remained faithful to the apostolic teaching. You and I both can both make a litany of such sins and abuses, yet the magisterial teaching of the Church has remained unchanged. What better proof can you have of her infallibility?"


256 posted on 07/28/2005 6:57:11 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: bornacatholic
I'm perfectly happy to be corrected as to the first Mass. a usage now claimed as distinctive of the liturgies other than Roman

Your cite says that the 'kiss' is NOT a Roman liturgy thing...and, by the way, at the Offertory, NOT the Agnus Dei.

And I'll continue to refrain from carrying on with others at Mass, thanks. Since the Roman liturgy did not include this (by your evidence and my recollection pre-1962) it doesn't seem to be an immemorial tradition.

257 posted on 07/28/2005 7:01:26 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot; bornacatholic
The kiss of peace is part of the traditional Roman Rite but, as with the Novus Order, it occurs prior to Communion rather at the presentation of the gifts. One reason, though, that you might not have remembered it is because it was only done at a Solemn High Mass (one with deacon and subdeacon) and was only exchanged between the clergy. The form was also different than the handshake used today. It was given in an hierarchical order start with the priest and the deacon. The priest would place his hands on the deacon's shoulders while the deacon placed his hands under the priest's elbows. The two would then bow their heads toward each other. (You would have seen Pope Benedict use this form for his Masses.) The deacon would then exchange the kiss of peace with the subdeacon, etc.
258 posted on 07/28/2005 7:15:08 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: ninenot
Perhaps you'd share your qualifications to pronounce on matters of music?

I was wondering that myself, considering that I HAVE heard "On Eagles Wings" on the piano in bars and department stores.

259 posted on 07/28/2005 8:58:02 PM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Vicomte13
All of the other hymns and Christmas carols that I know by heart (Amazing Grace, Ave Maria, A Mighty Fortress, Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring, etc.) are really quite old.

And with one exception (Ave Maria), prostestant.

260 posted on 07/28/2005 9:02:55 PM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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