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To: Graves; k omalley
It was our parents' generation which was grumbling about the Church and demanding change.

Nonsense! You're both wrong. Many of the changes we have witnessed, resulted from agenda-driven liberal 'interpretations' of VCII documents. If you read through the VCII Document Archives, you will learn that the Church recommended that Latin be retained, as well as Gregorian Chant. Just read the documents and learn the real truth.

250 posted on 07/28/2005 5:12:59 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Excuse me, but "You're both wrong."
About what?
Or who is both?
My post referred to Nanette Claret's comment, to some Holy Scripture, and to some specific acts of Pope John Paul II photographed for posterity.

Please explain to us who both is and how both are wrong about what.


251 posted on 07/28/2005 5:27:53 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: NYer

Actually, I believe the changes in the Church - all churches in the US - were driven by the Communist infiltration of the seminaries. I know that sounds like a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory, but infiltrating the Church was one of the items on their agenda to destroy American culture. I remember a distinct change in our Sunday School material when I was an eighth grader in 1966 - and this was in the Presbyterian Church! It was very subtle, but almost as if the writers of our lessons wanted to instill as many doubts and questions as possible into impressionable junior high minds. I remember getting really angry at some of the things that were being taught, and knowing even then that some of it was bordering on heresy!


285 posted on 07/29/2005 12:57:01 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (The LORD is known by his justice; the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands. Psalm 9:16)
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