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Matthew Fox's 95 Theses
TexAnglican ^ | 6/04/2005 | Randall Foster

Posted on 06/04/2005 6:07:14 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Pride, arrogance, and a desire to be better, smarter, or more sophisticated than others lurk behind many gropings into alleged secret esoteric knowledge. Along with the persecution fantasies, delusions of having lived as a princess in an earlier time, Faustian power lust, and related phenomena. Of course, if it involves nude rituals and group sex that's an added attraction for the thrill seekers.

With the dissident pseudo-Catholic liberal wacko groups, there is a heavy preoccupation with guilt, shame, and blaming others for environmental, economic, and gender-related social problems. This slides quickly into a very Manichean vision with extreme paranoid tendencies. As with all cults, there is a narrowing of the social field so that the only things considered authentic or truly of value are those centered in the encounter group. Classic cult mentality.

41 posted on 06/05/2005 7:46:01 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; maryz
Given just the financial disasters of the clergy molestation scandals, it probably is NOT a good idea for people to be hugging and touching one another at Mass.

I presume you're talking about the "Peace", an innovation introduced in ECUSA in the late 60s as part of their new liturgy. I don't know what it's like in the Catholic church, but in ECUSA it's a mess -- it's a 5-minute social hour, people wadering everywhere, yakking; I've seen churches that have taken to ringing bells to break it up. I am so glad we don't have that in our traditional Anglican service.

42 posted on 06/05/2005 7:48:13 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Fraud in WA: More votes than voters!)
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To: sionnsar

The "sign of peace" in the new Catholic Mass is one of the most ridiculous innovations. If you are sitting in a pew in the congregation, basically you have to shake hands with at least twelve people ( two to the right, two to the left, four in front, four behind you). Some people don't like to do this and refrain from doing so. Some people shake hands with those they know, but not with others. It creates very awkward situations.


43 posted on 06/05/2005 8:03:08 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: sionnsar
I presume you're talking about the "Peace", an innovation introduced in ECUSA in the late 60s as part of their new liturgy. I don't know what it's like in the Catholic church, but in ECUSA it's a mess -- it's a 5-minute social hour, people wandering everywhere, yakking; I've seen churches that have taken to ringing bells to break it up.

It's a mess in the NO mass too. I've seen priests leave Our Lord upon the altar to walk up and down the aisles to hug and kiss everybody.

44 posted on 06/05/2005 8:25:33 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: sionnsar
an innovation introduced in ECUSA in the late 60s as part of their new liturgy

That's when I remember it coming into Catholic churches, too -- I wonder who had the blight first. (Somehow I'm recalling what an aunt of mine used to say about kids playing together: they always pick up each other's bad habits, never the good ones -- LOL!)

45 posted on 06/05/2005 9:15:59 AM PDT by maryz
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To: AnAmericanMother
The Druid finally resigned his Episcopalian orders and is a full blown Druid/pagan/Wiccan whatever now.
46 posted on 06/05/2005 12:36:50 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"There are groups at seminaries training ECUSA and ELCA clergy where they have regular groups who pray to Gaia....and there was a wiccan ritual passing itself off as a "women's liturgy" on the ECUSA web page not that long ago. These pics are not at all surprising."

Reading this thread is actually making me feel a little sick. I came THIS CLOSE to being sucked into this loony crap in the 70's and 80's. I've caught myself two or three times so far saying, "Thank you, God!" for steering me out of it. But I read all of Fox's books, believed all of his preaching, and thought it was really cool when he put Starhawk on as his teaching partner. Whew! What a close call!

47 posted on 06/05/2005 12:41:15 PM PDT by redhead (Are you 2? I'm 2, 3! --Victor Borge)
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To: sionnsar; NYer; AnAmericanMother

He lives on publicity. He is part of the same multi-headed demon that includes John Shelby Spong, Joan Chittister, Rosemary Radford Ruether, Charles Bennison, Hans Kueng, Miriam Therese Winter, Carter Heyward, Dan Schutte, as well as other assorted fruits and nuts in the Catholic hierarchy and the hieararchy of the Anglican Communion.


48 posted on 06/05/2005 12:44:28 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: redhead

Yep...played with a lot of it, but God called me where he wanted me, and I say, "Thank you Lord for letting me hear your voice!"


49 posted on 06/05/2005 12:45:26 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sionnsar; NYer

It's no wonder why the Vatican booted Fox, and if Episcopalians were smart they would too. His "theses" is nothing more than new-age garbage, it his heresey not Christianity.


50 posted on 06/05/2005 12:48:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer; nickcarraway; Pyro7480; Canticle_of_Deborah; Domestic Church; AKA Elena; St. Johann Tetzel; ..

These 95 Theses of Matthew Fox are a blueprint for the religion of the Anti-Christ. I do not need to mention the name of Cardinal Biffi after you read Matthew Fox 95 "faith observations" but I will say these are dangerous in the extreme because they could serve as a foundation for the work of the URI. They have lacked a catechetical device and this could be the beginning of a "Confession" for the False URI church.


51 posted on 06/05/2005 12:49:40 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
There are groups at seminaries training ECUSA and ELCA clergy where they have regular groups who pray to Gaia

According to my friend that just left an ELCA sem, it goes much deeper and darker than that.

52 posted on 06/05/2005 1:13:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

I would not be surprised...


53 posted on 06/05/2005 1:21:46 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: NYer; Petronski; onyx
I thought this was about Matthew Fox's 95 Theses. But then I read them and realized he meant to call them his 95 Feces.

Nothing to worry about here, folks. Just an unfortunate typo.

54 posted on 06/05/2005 5:45:14 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

LOL!!!


55 posted on 06/05/2005 5:53:06 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
Murph, I would find Mr. Fox's "Theses" sad if they weren't so damn funny!

Maybe I'm too naive, but I don't think we need to worry about anyone other than the MSM too seriously. And no one takes the MSM seriously (other than Muslim fanatics always read for a reason to go on jihad).

56 posted on 06/05/2005 6:03:45 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal


YES! FOTFL!


57 posted on 06/05/2005 6:32:57 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: GipperGal

THESES

rhymes with . . .

????????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


58 posted on 06/05/2005 8:49:01 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: GipperGal
LOL!

Thanks for the common sense laugh!

The poor guy is a nut, honestly.

59 posted on 06/06/2005 8:32:29 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen
The poor guy is a nut, honestly.

But don't you just love his haircut? He kinda looks like Andy Warhol.

60 posted on 06/07/2005 9:33:26 AM PDT by GipperGal
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