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1 posted on 05/17/2005 6:16:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

``We do not consider the practice of asking Mary and the saints to pray for us as communion dividing ... we believe that there is no continuing theological reason for ecclesiastical division on these matters.''

Ecumenical bump!

2 posted on 05/17/2005 6:26:30 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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**they have agreed that Catholic teachings on the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary into heaven are consistent with Anglican interpretations of the Bible.**

Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us!


7 posted on 05/17/2005 7:32:26 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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... that old complaint that these dogmas were not provable by scripture will disappear,'' Carnley said ...

This, of course, is ultimately the issue. Most RCC adherents will readily concede that their devotion to/worship of Mary is based upon their organization's 'tradition' and not upon the Scriptures. The RCC, like the Mormon church, is unabashedly accretionist, i.e. their respective organizations have established mechanisms to add to (or change)their belief structure. as time goes along, beyond those concepts found in Scripture.

The risks of an accretionist church, of course, is that, like the old children's game of 'telephone', by the time the story gets filtered through the 'tradition' of each of the carriers on its way around the circle, it bears little or no resemblence to the original message. The advantage of the accretionist approach is that it can readily adapt to cultural and scientific developments, but the disadvantage is that no effective mechanism has been found to keep the accretions 'tied to' and limited by the original message.

The Anglicans have always muddled along somewhere in the middle between the accretionists and the non-accretionists, granting some (undefined) role to 'tradition'. All that is changing here is that (apparently) some segment of the Anglican church is swinging toward complete accretionism.

For those of us with a high view of Scripture (versus man-made accretions), this is sad. For the accretionists, obviously, it is a cause for celebration and an old-fashioned "I told you so."

9 posted on 05/17/2005 7:39:29 AM PDT by winstonchurchill
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This is an extraordinary development. Papal authority is the last obstacle to reunion. It's a big one, but if they can agree on the Immaculate Conception, it's certainly possible.


15 posted on 05/17/2005 7:53:45 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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You have got to be kidding?


81 posted on 05/17/2005 11:28:16 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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