[marshmallow]

"I am concerned, and I don't want to isolate this clericalism to Rome," said the Rev. Tom Splain, an American professor of cultural anthropology at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome. "It's on the increase in all of our seminaries. Kind of a return to piety, kind of a superficial piety.

Yikes!! Piety in seminarians!!! What a disaster!!!!

[Pyro7480]

It's time for a counter-revolution to throw out all these jokers like the professor.

[murphE]

Kind of a return to piety, kind of a superficial piety.

Since the concept of genuine piety and devotion is foreign to this professor, all piety must be superficial piety. Sheesh.

[conservonator]

Kind of a return to piety, kind of a superficial piety. ... What happens in Rome is you have a greater percentage of those types."

Amazing, I wonder if he can pick lotto numbers too

[conservonator]

The young seminarians and priests who come to study in Rome are "careerists," he said, who spend very little of their careers in contact with regular parishioners and their problems.

Too bad, kind of like the Church keeping it's light under a bushel basket or something...

[NYer]

And if the graduates stick with their current convictions, the future Roman Catholic Church will likely be as conservative as it has become under John Paul II.

The JPII legacy grows!

[Bombardier]

And if the graduates stick with their current convictions, the future Roman Catholic Church will likely be as conservative as it has become under John Paul II.

And this is a problem how?

Santo subito! Giovanni Paolo il Magna!

[ninenot]

The African students were emphatic about the ban on rubbers...

The more one reads from the article, the more it becomes apparent that the reporter REALLY tried hard to get one of them to wander away from doctrine.

Must have really had the reporter PO'd when he couldn't...

[mike182d]

I personally know 13 seminarians - two of which were sent to Rome under this very same program - and let me tell you, the Church in the next 20 years will be in very capable hands. The true affect Pope John Paul II had on the Church has yet to even be realized yet...

[siunevada]

kind of a superficial piety

As opposed to the professor's piety? Lead by example, my good man!

[siunevada]

One young deacon, from Ireland, forcefully told a reporter that he didn't think an interview should focus any longer on the issue of condoms and HIV.

Right on, deacon!

Can we now begin to question reporters' obsession with making anal sex 'safe'? What's up with that? Is that all you think about? It's never gonna happen, reporter dude!

What person in their right mind imagines that HIV victims were obedient on condoms but not disordered sexual relations? Completely insane!

[It's me]

THe best line:

"I heard with my own ears someone say the pope was a thief because he didn't fight AIDS," Dobos said. "But if everyone lived the way a Catholic should live, there would be no AIDS."

[hispanichoosier]

At another point he demanded that a reporter read back from his notes the deacon's comments about why women should not be ordained as priests.

Yeah, 'cause we all know that reporters are always 100% accurate...

[sinkspur]

"I think there is a doctrinaire feeling among a lot of seminarians," said O'Collins, who has been teaching 35 years and, in spite of his anxiety over the seminarians of today, is not a particular advocate of liberalism. "And a bishop sending someone here is going to pick the reliable, safe ones. ... I think pastoral experience is a great reality teacher. They can't live like that. In the pastorial situation, they've got to be wise and helpful."

A Roman Catholic seminary is the only institution in the world that can take in a man and turn out a boy.

Pastoral experience will change these young priests. They will also be serving under pastors who are tempered by life, and human encounters.

[Salvation]

Sounds wonderful to me!

[Salvation]

I think the picture is getting better and better!

Cardinal Arinze - "Youth will embrace religious life with right role models"

Today's seminarians reflect growing trend

Number of Seminarians Increases - Please Decipher This!!!!

In Seminaries, New Ways for a New Generation

Seminary Springtime: Father Darrin Connall s Big Success

EVIDENCE GROWS OF DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO VATICAN IN MAJOR AMERICAN SEMINARIES

Pope to Church: Risky Seminarians Must Go

Priests Down, Seminarians Up

U.S. Priests and seminarians survey: more vocations in orthodox dioceses

Vatican Announces Surge in Seminaries during JPII Pontificate

Seminary Reform Needed in Wake of Sex Abuse Study ["the crisis in the Church is ... homosexuality"]

Homosexuals in seminaries? The latest.....

Priests 'In Orgy' at Seminary

Bishop urges gay ban in clergy; presses for overhaul in screening priests

A New Breed of Priest

AUSTRIAN SEMINARY SHUT DOWN FOR PROBE

Seminarians Show Support For Celibacy

556 Reasons for Hope [Seminarians Support Celibacy]

No Shortage of Vocations From Conservative Parishes

Oakland seminary housing sex offender priests

Phoenix bishop to helm Priestly Formation Committee [of USCCB]

Vatican Firms up Plans for U.S. Seminary Visitation in 2005

SIBLING VOCATIONS - Early calls led two sisters to same religious order

On the admission of homosexuals to seminaries

Catholic priests demand the right to marry

Disciples of Pope John Paul (Faculty of Gregorian University Gripe About Piety of New Seminarians)

[Desdemona]

This is good news, my friends.

[Armando Guerra]

This generation of young men is part of his legacy.

I pray the next Pope will continue his legacy. This is one of the things about the Church people tend to forget. The 2,000 year old Church reacts slowly because it thinks in terms of generations. A corporate CEO would have responded in Trump-like manner ("You're fired!") to the recent scandals. The Church, it appears, has decided to let the liberal priests and bishops die-off and have more conservative priests in training to replace them. Not the immediate response people want, but a long-term solution nonetheless.

[McGavin999]

"Solving one problem may bring about another problem which may be worse than the first," said Taban, referring to the moral failings the church thinks relaxed policies toward condoms could encourage. "It is a great risk to the kind of truth the Bible is trying to give to the world," Taban added.

This is so true! I keep hearing that the world has changed, but it has not changed for the better. When you used to get married, it was assumed it would be for life. Yes, there was divorce but it was so looked down on that it was rare. You considered yourself a failure if you got a divorce. It made people a little more careful when choosing a mate. It made you really try to work things out before you headed to the lawyer's office.

Birthcontrol pills led to promiscuity, the kind that is common now and accepted. There needs to be something in the middle.