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Commentary: It's time to name Satan
UPI ^ | 11 Feb, 2005 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 02/14/2005 1:25:43 PM PST by sauerkraut

WASHINGTON, Feb. 11 (UPI) -- There is no way to understand the horror of priestly pedophilia in the Archdiocese of Boston and elsewhere unless one accepts the existence of the Evil One as a powerful reality.

The Catholic celibacy rule is doubtless a contributing factor, as is the collapse of the structure of the priesthood since the Second Vatican Council.

But what is Scripture if not the story of a cosmic struggle between God and the Prince of the World, as Luther called Satan?

Suppose you were the Devil, extremely intelligent, mighty, and determined to destroy God's creation -- where would you attack most efficaciously?

First, you'd try to corrupt God's son by trying to persuade him to fall down and worship you (Matthew 4:9). When that doesn't work, you'd have him nailed to the cross.

And if that backfires, you'd do your best to attack the very men who stand in for Christ at the altar as they consecrate the Eucharist -- the priests.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholicism; celibacy; chastity; pedophillia; sisterlucia
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Sometimes, we all have to look our sins in the face because true repentance cannot begin until we turn away from that which infects us. That goes for our churches as wll.
1 posted on 02/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PST by sauerkraut
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To: sauerkraut
The Catholic celibacy rule is doubtless a contributing factor

Author more or less blows his credibility right there.

2 posted on 02/14/2005 1:31:18 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yep. If someone is a bachelor all his life, then he must be a pervert. (Sarcasm)


3 posted on 02/14/2005 1:36:44 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: ArrogantBustard

"Author more or less blows his credibility right there."


I disagree. It's unnatural to expect a human male to never have sexual relations. The Church is simple seeing that unnatural practice manifest itself in the pedophilia scandals.


4 posted on 02/14/2005 1:40:58 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: sauerkraut

Celibacy does not cause grown men to molest little boys. It is called sodomy, to be Biblical. Homosexually-oriented men (perverts) molest little boys.


5 posted on 02/14/2005 1:43:39 PM PST by Mershon
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To: Blzbba
It's unnatural

So? Many would say, monogamy is innatural.

6 posted on 02/14/2005 1:43:45 PM PST by annalex
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To: Blzbba
It's unnatural to expect a human male to never have sexual relations.

OTOH, it's perfectly Godly to expect a man to exercise self control.

7 posted on 02/14/2005 1:44:45 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"it's perfectly Godly to expect a man to exercise self control."


and extremely unrealistic, as the scandals involving men of cloth of ALL faiths have shown.

Let priests marry. Forbid gays from becoming priests. Problem solved. This whole 'celibacy' ideal is complete, manmade nonsense anyways. There's nothing Biblical to back it up.

God said 'Be Fruitful and multiply', not 'Be Fruity and fondle boys'


8 posted on 02/14/2005 1:48:37 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

With God, all things are possible.


9 posted on 02/14/2005 1:50:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"With God, all things are possible."


Unfortunately for numerous children, possible != probable.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 1:52:55 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba
It's unnatural to expect a human male to never have sexual relations.

That is your opinion.

11 posted on 02/14/2005 1:53:13 PM PST by BullDog108 (Forgive the Russians / Ignore the Germans / Punish the French)
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To: Blzbba
Yes because fathers never molest their own children.
12 posted on 02/14/2005 1:55:50 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: BullDog108

"That is your opinion."


Not really. The urge to procreate is naturally present in every healthy male, which is fortunate for the propagation of our species.

If they can't get married, at least let them use the Jocelyn Elders method of sexual self-gratification.

I wonder how many acts of perversion were committed on children over the last millenium before some finally had the courage to stand up to these sick perverts that masquerade as 'priests'?


13 posted on 02/14/2005 1:57:58 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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Shanley, Geoghan, et al were hardly Godly men.

When men reject God, the results (from Shanley to the Soviet Union) are predictable.

14 posted on 02/14/2005 1:58:05 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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"Yes because fathers never molest their own children"


True, but that's not causing the PR problem for the Vatican that a small % of perverted priest are.

I support equal punishment for whomever molests a child, btw.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 1:59:30 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

Your post reflects a mentality I have no desire to communicate with. Good day.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 2:00:17 PM PST by BullDog108 (Forgive the Russians / Ignore the Germans / Punish the French)
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To: Blzbba
The urge to procreate has nothing whatever to do with buggering teenage boys. When was the last time you ever heard of a man or boy getting pregnant as the result of bunghole sex? If Shanley, Geoghan, et al. were overwhelmed by the urge to procreate, they'd have been committing adultery or fornication with teenage girls or young women.
17 posted on 02/14/2005 2:00:46 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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"When men reject God, the results (from Shanley to the Soviet Union) are predictable."


Absolutely. Is there something that can be done to better 'weed out' those who'd turn from God at the first (or 101st) time of temptation? That's all my "let them marry" is trying to accomplish, btw.

Realistically, it'd probably be near-impossible to have a healthy marriage and be a parish priest at the same time, due to the overwhelming time commitments required by both. I'm a realist here but would like to see the Vatican at least try SOMETHING.

And why isn't this as widespread in the Protestant faiths?


18 posted on 02/14/2005 2:02:10 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: BullDog108

"Your post reflects a mentality I have no desire to communicate with. Good day."


Your post reflect a mentality that doesn't appear to be interested in fixing a serious problem. Ignoring it won't make it go away. I thus have no desire to communicate with you. Good day."


19 posted on 02/14/2005 2:03:26 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"The urge to procreate has nothing whatever to do with buggering teenage boys. When was the last time you ever heard of a man or boy getting pregnant as the result of bunghole sex? If Shanley, Geoghan, et al. were overwhelmed by the urge to procreate, they'd have been committing adultery or fornication with teenage girls or young women"


It's all about a sex drive, though. You're right, though. See my "can the Vatican weed out the perverts?" suggestion.


20 posted on 02/14/2005 2:04:15 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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