Icons of Madonna and Jesus shed blood - scientists say "AN EXTRAORDINARY AND AMAZING PHENOMENON"

Spirit Daily ^ | February 4, 2005

[NYer]

Every now and then one reads in the news that some Image of the Madonna is weeping. Sometimes these tears are blood and the news are then much more impressive. The skeptics smile; the ecclesiastical authorities evaluate the event with great prudence, with good reason, and they avoid making definite judgments; science does not get involved, and if it does, it is at the level practiced by amateurs. Then, as time passes, the event becomes less interesting, fades from memory, and is soon forgotten. Only in very rare cases is the event of such importance that it is acknowledged as true and real and is then certified as authentic and of a supernatural origin. An example is the research that was carried out on the "Weeping Madonna of Syracuse." [It was declared authentic and of supernatural origin.]

We will now tell you of a recent similar event, still unknown, which reveals itself to be truly astounding because the first judgment released came from science, science at the highest level, a judgment that opens viewpoints to amazing hypotheses.

The event involves two Sacred Icons that shed tears of blood on two separate occasions. The two Icons belong to Padre Pietro Maria Chiriatti, 59 years old, a Priest since 1990, founder of a small Congregation called "The Missionnaries of Our Lady of the Quarry," who lives in a modest dwelling in Alberobello, Puglia,Italy. Padre Pietro tells us:

 

"It was on the 3 of May 2003, around 6 in the evening, I had gone to my room to
take some medication when I noticed that the Icon which represents the Madonna
with Child, hanging above my prayer kneeler, had spots on its face. Because I
have poor eyesight I touched the Image and felt that it was wet. I called my
fellow members (Confreres) and all of us could see that she was shedding tears."

 

The phenomenon lasted thirty minutes and was witnessed by other persons whom Padre Pietro had immediately called. This event was recorded on video tape. Padre Pietro wiped the blood with a handkerchief and sent it to a laboratory to be tested.

Approximately one year later, on the 27 May 2004, the phenomenon repeated itself on another Icon of Padre Pietro that represents the Face of Jesus as it appears on the Shroud of Turin. This time it was more than a weeping Icon, it was a bloody sweat. The Face of Jesus was striped by seven streaks of blood that trickled down from the forehead, along the cheeks, over the beard, and running over the picture frame of the Icon. Padre Pietro, frightened, called out to all who were in the house to come and see; he then telephoned the police, the parish priest and the doctor. This phenomenon lasted for one and a half hours and was witnessed by about 50 persons.

Once again, Padre Pietro collected some of the blood and sent the sample to the same laboratory where he had previously sent the blood that had appeared on the Face of the Virgin. And it was here, in this scientific laboratory, where the extraordinary characteristics of these related events became known. It must be made very clear that this laboratory is one of the most prestigious in Europe. It is the Genetics Forensic Laboratory of the University of Bologna, equipped with the most modern sophisticated equipment with a team of researchers, doctors and biologists University Professors. This laboratory specializes in everything related to DNA. It works with Secret Services and Police of many nations and is in contact with other similar laboratories of other countries.


This laboratory has Scientific Authority, therefore a verdict released by this laboratory is of indisputable [unquestionable] value.

After carrying out all the tests, the laboratory researchers sent Padre Pietro an official document stating, in resume,

 

"the blood is human blood, of group AB, male, and was found to be identical in

the two samples tested, the blood from the tears from the Icon of the Virgin

 and the blood that appeared of the Face of Jesus are the same." But there is

more, the document continues from its evaluations to something that seems really

incredible: "the configuration of the genetic features found in the Y chromosome

 does not correspond to any of the configurations present in the world wide

 data bank where the data of 22,000 male subjects from 187 different populations

is kept."

And further on we read:

 

"This blood is so rare that it must be considered as almost unique.

 By calculation, the statistical probability of finding, in the course

of millennia, a typology of the same blood type, is almost nil, the

mathematical probability of this happening is in the order of

1 in 200 billion possible cases."

[In other words 1 on 200,000,000,000.]

 

What does all this mean? In the first place, the data obtained excludes in an absolute manner any case of fraud, deception or deceit: there is no one in the world who could be in a position to produce blood with similar characteristics. On the other hand, because we are dealing with a unique type of blood, the data indicates that it belongs to only one single Person and to no other person in all of humanity's history. Therefore it comes from a Man who has no ancestor and no descendant [offsprings]. Therefore it becomes quite clear and if we go to the Gospels and see what is written there about Jesus, [we learn there that He was] a Man unlike all others (unique) with these characteristics. While on this subject, it is quite significant that the blood which appeared on the Image of the Virgin is identical to the blood which appeared on the Face of the Image of Jesus. We could say from these results that we possibly could have for the first time ever the scientific data concerning the physical Person of Jesus: the DNA of Jesus, God Incarnated in a Body that is and will remain unique.

It is still too early to arrive at a final conclusion, but the verdict from science is, for all purposes, precise, public and without ambiguity. The scholars [researchers] who released this information did it in a cold [controlled], mathematical, but very clear language. They have specifically affirmed that they found themselves in front of something unique. And they are the ones, accustomed to scientific precision, to show with wonder, the extraordinary nature of these results. In a private letter to Padre Pietro, one of the researchers wrote: "these are results to stun with amazement even a statue." And again: "faced with the results of these analyses is incredible to me, and that is not saying much to say this, I could not even succeed in hiding my tears." And another one told him: "This is real human blood, but it seems to really come from another world."

The ecclesiastical authorities are naturally aware of these facts and are presently investigating and evaluating them. Their prudence [caution] will be tremendous, and with good reason, for it is right that it should be so. But the scientific results lead one to think that we are perhaps faced with a supernatural Sign of exceptional importance.

[resources: The Day Will Come]

[netmilsmom]

>>Is it bringing people closer to Christ, or is it creating a spectacle unto itself?<<

That is the question.
We in the church are not required to believe in any apparition or miracle even if it is ruled to be supernatural.
When that miracle becomes a cult unto itself and money is made hand over fist for the promoters of it, I feel it is evil. When one is drawn closer to Our Lord by the realization of it, that is good.

[gal522]

Amen. God bless.

[F16Fighter]

In a private letter to Padre Pietro, one of the researchers wrote: "these are results to stun with amazement even a statue." And again: "faced with the results of these analyses is incredible to me, and that is not saying much to say this, I could not even succeed in hiding my tears." And another one told him: "This is real human blood, but it seems to really come from another world."

Yeah -- the "under-world."

Satan is "supernatural" as well as God.

[F16Fighter]

"I think one thing to remember is that the Devil cannot create like God can. He can only corrupt."

Satan is indeed quite capable of mimicking and invoking God's "creations" -- even impersonating Jesus Christ Himself.

[netmilsmom]

>> Satan is indeed quite capable of mimicking and invoking God's "creations" -- even impersonating Jesus Christ Himself.<<

I agree with this but by it's fruits you can see if it is evil or good.
Do those that present the "miracle" profit from it?
Do those who promote it ask for fame or profit?
Does it make one think more of Our Lord or tell pilgrims to stray from the basic teachings of Jesus?

It is alright to look at something as a miracle as long as one does not worship the object or apparition.

When I hear someone who presented a miracle chooses a life walking in the steps of Our Lord, I have to look at it as something good.

[murphE]

The link is in post #8, read all about it! It's amazing.

[netmilsmom]

Thanks!

[netmilsmom]

Wow!

One would think that if this was just human flesh it would have deteriorated!

[murphE]

All I am saying is stuff like this should be approached with caution...

I agree, it is best to proceed with extreme caution. Sometimes people can become miracle and apparition chasers, and lose sight of what we know to be true.

I heard Fr. Groeschel say once, "You want to hear God speak to you? READ THE BIBLE. You want to see a miracle? GO TO MASS!" :-D

[F16Fighter]

"It is alright to look at something as a miracle as long as one does not worship the object or apparition."

Therein lies the problem.

Too often the mere apparition automatically represents "good" without discernment.

"When I hear someone who presented a miracle chooses a life walking in the steps of Our Lord, I have to look at it as something good."

That in itself could be considered a "miracle" as well. Amen to that.

I have a close friend of mine who witnessed along with others a portrait of the Modonna "speaking" to them -- that is her lips actually moved.

Satan OR "miracle"?

P.S. -- This was at the home of someone who'd had had a much-publicized Marian Shrine in his yard, and of whom been "speaking to Our Lady."

Some of her "messages" did NOT turn out to be true.

[netmilsmom]

>>P.S. -- This was at the home of someone who'd had had a much-publicized Marian Shrine in his yard, and of whom been "speaking to Our Lady."

Some of her "messages" did NOT turn out to be true.<<

Oooo, that's part of the problem. I think that the Devil himself has seen how devoted people can be after witnessing a true miracle. There are hundreds of people who are talking to or hearing from "Mary". I believe this is to confuse us.

Here is a list of Modern false Apparitions..
AMERICA'S FALSE APPARITIONS

Necedah, WIS,

Bayside, NY,

Charismatics,

Portavoz of MX,

St. Joseheph's Hill of Hope, Los Angeles, CA,

The Army of Mary, Canada

The Last Call of Canada

Maria Esperanza of Betania (although Betania is true),

Sr. M. Neuzil of Dayton, OH,

Fr. Albert Hebert of Paulina, LA,

Eileen George of Worcester, MA,

Miguel Poblete of Penablance, OH,

Maureen Sweeney of Cleveland, OH,

Vange Gonzales of Santa Fe, NM,

Nancy Fowler of Conyers, GA,

Elba & Zendia of Terra Blance, MX,

Bro. David of El Ranchilo, TX,

Estella Ruiz of Phoenix, AZ,

Mary Constancio of Lubbock, TX,

Pachi Borrero of El Cajas, EQ,

Father Spaulding of Scottsdale, AZ,

Gianna Sullivan and the rest of Scottsdale, AZ,

Marvin Kucera of Scottsdale, AZ,

Theresa Lopez of CO,

Januszkiewicz of Marlboro, NJ,

Singer of Burlinton, ON,

Reinhiltz of Hillside, IL,

Carol Nole of Santa Maria, CA,

Fr Bruse of Lake Ridge, VA,

Veronica Garcia of Denver, CO,

Tony Fernwalt of Steubenville, OH,

Ray doiron of Belleville, IL,

Rosa Lopez of Hollywood, FL.

False Apparitions in the Rest of the World

Problematic: 'Lady of All Nations' (1945 - Present)

Poem of the Man-God,

Luisa Piccarreta,

The Pebble of AUS,

Vassula Ryden of SZ,

Magnificat Meal Movement

Father Gino, of San Vittorino, Italy

Caterine Richero of France,

Lasut, Slovakia

Garabandal,

Ivetka and Katka Greek Catholic girls from the village of Litmanova. These apparitions are still not decided.

Rosa of Dan Damiano,

Gilli of Italy,

Alocci of Sant Stefano, Italy,

Carabelli of San Damiano, Italy,

Josyp Terelya of Ukraine,

Fr. Gobbi of Milan, Italy,

Julka of Yugoslavia,

Cuevas of El Escorial,

Rwanda (Very, very strange "approval" circumstances. We feel certain this is NOT of God.)

Medjugorje,
These apparitions are still not decided by the Vatican because the "apparitions" have not ended. Disapproved by the local Bishop and almost all Bishops of the former Yugoslavia (personally, when the Devil appeared in Our Lady's clothes, it creeped me out)

Aloisia Lex of Austria,

Julia Kim of Korea,

Oliveto Citra, Italy,

Ursula and Breda of Melleray, Ireland,

Paul of Blue Mt., AUS,

Cameroon, AF,

Rosemary O'Sullivan of IRE.

Maria Kizyn of Ukraine,

Sr. Anna Ali of Rome,

Christina Gallagher of IRE,

Zenovai of Ukraine,

Singer of Ontario,

Ivetka and Katka of Slovakia,

Matthew Kelly of AUS,

Rossi of Rome.

[F16Fighter]

Impressive list, mom...

The person I referred to IS on your list.

Btw, Our Lady of Medjugorie is also false.

[escapefromboston]

I may be wrong but I believe James Randi's one million was for someone proving ESP. I think the major problem would be that most people don't know who James Randi is, or they think he is dead.

[netmilsmom]

>>Btw, Our Lady of Medjugorie is also false.<<

I believe it is as well.
The handlers of those "seers" know how to work it well. They will not have the appparitions stop eventhough the "Gospa" has stated more than once that they will.
The Vatican will not rule on it until the apparitions stop. The Holy See has stated that no group can go there with the intention of venerating the site. The tours still go on. I went to church today and a group of ladies had a flyer about a tour. I didn't know what to say except that it is not approved. They didn't seem to mind.
The local Bishop has said many times that nothing supernatural is happening there. He is wrong only in the fact that there is nothing Godly going on. I believe there is something supernatural and it scares me.

I almost visited the lady from Cleveland when I lived there. She had billboards in Slavic Village near downtown where the Eastern European, extremely Catholic community lives. Many people thought she was real. I thank God that I was not caught up in it.

Who is the person you know? FReepmail me if you don't want it public.

[NYer]

The Bible says that in the last days

So, you are saying "these" are the last days? The first disciples of Christ believed that they were living in the "last days" and that was 2000 years ago. These may feel like the last days but only God knows when that day will come. In the meantime, there have been many examples of bleeding icons. In each instance where the blood was analyzed, it was ALWAYS AB. This particular situation just happens to be better documented and scientifically examined than the others.

[xm177e2]

James Randi's US$1M challenge is here. He wants "evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event."

[netmilsmom]

>>These may feel like the last days but only God knows when that day will come.<<

Amen!
And also, God's time is not our time.

Here is a joke I heard at Rosary Makers..

A man talks to God and says, "Lord, how long is a million years to you?"
Our Lord says, "Just a minute."
Then the man asks, "How much money is a million dollars to you?"
Our Lord says, "Just a penny."
The man, being very smug says, "Then all I ask is a penny."
Our Lord replies, "In a minute."

We may be in the last days, but we do not know how long a Heavenly Day is!

[F16Fighter]

"The tours still go on. I went to church today and a group of ladies had a flyer about a tour. I didn't know what to say except that it is not approved. They didn't seem to mind.

The local Bishop has said many times that nothing supernatural is happening there. He is wrong only in the fact that there is nothing Godly going on. I believe there is something supernatural and it scares me."

It's creepy and unconscienable that those continue to exploit the charade not only for greed, but for helping Satan in his deceptions.

The CC ought not ONLY "disapprove," but should officially make it anathema.

[murphE]

The priest of my former parish went on a pilgrimage there last year, everyone thought it was just wonderful. The Bishop had no problem with it. Sigh.

[F16Fighter]

The problem is 'Our Lady' of Medjugorie is a liar.

Note "her" quotes at the following link:

http://www.creationists.org/MessagesFromHeaven/apparition_claim/savior.html