[RaceBannon]

I never believed it was what the claim says.

It has become an idol, a statement of faith.

Thatis another reason I disbelieve it. if it was REALLY from Jesus, God would have destroyed it to prevent it from becomming an idol, like it has.

[RaceBannon]

It may be a genuine burial cloth, but there is no way it was Jesus' burial cloth.

[Eisenhower]

It's not an idol...people do not worship it as God, which is pretty much the definition of idol. It is an object of curiosity and reverence for some, for if it is in fact what some people think, it's pretty special indeed.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Quit altering titles to further your agenda.

[polemikos]

A fake?

None of the naturalistic or artistic theories proposed for the Shroud has held up to scientific scrutiny. None can satisfy the image criteria that must be:

• three-dimensionally encoded (even modern photography is not)
• focused,
• vertically collimated image
• exhibit gradual tonal changes
• function as a negative;
• superficial and confined to the topmost fibrils in which the density of pixels (quantity and lengths) of a single color produces different color tones;
• free of any chemical agents, pigments, dyes, colorants, emulsions, binders, or any other liquid or powder free of any byproducts produced as a result of an application of such;
• chemically conjugated carbonyl product, the result of accelerated oxidation and dehydration of the cellulose fibers of the linen;
• free of any mechanical or light source directionality;
• anatomically correct (including the flow of venous and arterial blood) in a way that only a late twentieth century - medical forensic pathologist could comprehend
• unique (no other similar artifacts)
  
  While it may be a fake, your lack of proof belies your statement as an article of faith on your part.

[Conservative til I die]

You're free to believe what you want, and believing the Shroud is authentic won't make you a better or worse Christian, but let's face it bro, you're against anything that has the "taint" of Catholicism attached to it, on principle alone.

[Swordmaker]

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