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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi

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To: RnMomof7; Invincibly Ignorant
I just ask you to look at the "fruit" of this thread. Would iggy have forsaken Christ were it not for this thread?

Mom you were on this thread for a loooong time and have been back many times yourself and many of your calvinists friends have been here several times giving the gospel to Steven with passion only a calvinist can give, lets ask Steven, did either side infulence you with their version of the gospel?

This thread say friendship trumps the gospel ... and in your heart I think you know that is true.

Never has been true with me.

That is EXACTLY why Paul warns the light has NO fellowship with the darkness..

Steven and I have slapped each other all over this thread for years trying to get the truth as we believe it into each other, I hardly call that fellowship.

BigMack

1,841 posted on 04/05/2004 2:57:06 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
RnMomof7 ... you have not been around (the NES thread) enough during the last year to make this type of statement.

Unless you have read the entirety of last year's thread, you don't know the entirety of ths discussions which have gone on here.

You don't know to what extent the gospel has been shared on this thread.

OTOH, last year's (NES) participants have been here ... day in and day out. There have been significant discussions between II and each of the other participants on the thread. I don't believe that there is a current regular on this thread who has not been consistent in witnessing to his/her beliefs repeatedly. The gospel is not the only thing that been discussed, but it is one of the consistent topics of discussion. If you'd have been here ... you would know that.

I trust that God will reap from our witness whatever result He desires ...
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
I may be mistaken, but I don't recall that your previous presence on the thread resulted in great multitudes coming to Jesus ... or that your presence stopped anyone from making changes in their beliefs.

I think that you're out of line coming here and castigating anyone.

1,842 posted on 04/05/2004 3:02:40 PM PDT by Quester (The mills of God may grind slowly, ... but they grind exceedingly fine.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Steven, I was trying to keep a low profile to keep from fighting with you today (maybe tomorow) but you have to settle this dispute:') On a score of 1-3 please rate the Calvinists, Armenians (do we have any here?) and the fundamentalists on:

1. Whose witness came the closest to converting you to Christianity, OSAS, the trinity (the whole enchilada)

2 Who will continue to peck at you daily?

1,843 posted on 04/05/2004 3:11:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: IMRight
I got that. But when you DID believe that He was God... was the "real" God using that "false" relationship? You believed in something that didn't really exist at all (within your current system). If I believe in the "magic sternum" is it really God that I believe in?

What does it matter. I believe in God now.

1,844 posted on 04/05/2004 3:24:04 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
You're gonna look funny in one of those bennie hats. :)

I'm gonna move it forward a little. covers my receeding hairline perfectly. :-)

1,845 posted on 04/05/2004 3:26:19 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Alex Murphy
Prove me wrong, IggyDon't really think I have to proove anything to you.
1,846 posted on 04/05/2004 3:29:02 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: al_c
Seems to me that he was already on his way to his current beliefs even without this thread. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Steven.)

he was looking for a church ..not looking to deny Christ.

He had alot of encouragement for other lost posters here to tip that balance..

1,847 posted on 04/05/2004 3:29:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

BigMack

1,848 posted on 04/05/2004 3:34:15 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Just being sarcastic. The poll was a "do you believe this" joke, don't answer. I figured you would know but wanted to clarify.
1,849 posted on 04/05/2004 3:34:31 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: al_c
Seems to me that he was already on his way to his current beliefs even without this thread. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Steven.)

Yes. I'm actually an adult and can think for myself. I don't care if my wife told you otherwise. :-)

1,850 posted on 04/05/2004 3:36:17 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
lets ask Steven, did either side infulence you with their version of the gospel?

Uh. Obviously not. :-)

1,851 posted on 04/05/2004 3:38:34 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: CindyDawg
1. Whose witness came the closest to converting you to Christianity, OSAS, the trinity (the whole enchilada)

Actually I was converted to chrisitanity 30 years ago in vietnam. A one to one witness. Not of any denomination. On this thread I had always thought of myself as a Christian until recently so I'm not sure anyone was trying to convert me.

2 Who will continue to peck at you daily?

Well so far it seems that the Calvinists have come out of the woodwork.

1,852 posted on 04/05/2004 3:44:46 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: RnMomof7
So haw many poster on the NES have repented and accepted Christ as their Savior as a result of all that passion?

Not a one mom. Not a one.

And "how many have repented and accepted Christ as their Savior as a result of Calvinists' passion"??

Not a one mom. Not a one.

If you can't see that (and I mean CLEARLY) then you've got a heck of a lot more "egotist" than "Calvinist" in you.

Kevin is a Calvinist ...

And so polite too... :-)

1,853 posted on 04/05/2004 3:44:58 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: RnMomof7; al_c; Invincibly Ignorant
he was looking for a church ..not looking to deny Christ.

If Irresistible grace comes on a person by someone preaching the gospel to them as you have to Steven he according to you cannot refuse or deny Christ, so according to you he is not or never has been one of the elect. What else are you to do? And don't lay the blame on this thread the gospel has been given to Steven several times.

You're beating a dead horse here even from your own standards. Stevens made up his mind and he will have to live with it the same as we will have to live with ours.

BigMack

1,854 posted on 04/05/2004 3:45:44 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: CindyDawg
***What do I have to be ashamed of? I witnessed (many xs). People are responsible for their own actions.***



2Cr 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?



2Cr 6:15
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?



2Cr 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2Cr 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,



2Cr 6:18
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.



***No movies? You too?:') Throw me some scripture on this stuff my way please. Just a little at a x though. I'm only good for about one paragraph and then I go scrolling to see what everyone else talking about :')****

That IS the problem

Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

***More scripture please where we aren't supposed to be nice and friendly when witnessing. Someone comes screaming in my face and they have lost me. If they talk down to me I ignore them.***

No, you show me where it says that friendship is necessary to present the gospel .

How "friendly" was Peter?

Act 3:14
But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;



Act 3:15
And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


He called people to repentance not a discussion on cars or movies .

NOW YOU SHOW ME where it says we have to make people like us so they will come to Christ.



You have all proved that you lose sheep with the power of your personalities.
Maybe next time you will decide to do it as God ordained



Let me see your scripture Cindy ...I believe God saves , and the way ordained is the presentation of the gospel ..He no where says that it is necessary to play nice .

The grace of God , over which you have NO CONTROL saves .

You have lived under the delusion that YOU save by showing how nice and happy you are can open ears to the gospel. That is not what Jesus said.

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1,855 posted on 04/05/2004 3:48:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: RnMomof7
I just ask you to look at the "fruit" of this thread. Would iggy have forsaken Christ were it not for this thread?

Just so I understand. It's your position that he WAS "saved" and is no longer?

How many have come to know Christ because of it?

Again, none "and in your heart I think you" had BETTER know it and know that it's true for any thread you feel more friendly about. But I bet thousands (ok maybe hundreds) have been exposed to the Gospel who might never have otherwise. People who never posted or we never knew were here.

The fact that the Gospel can be offensive to those who have not received it fully does not mean we have to be.

1,856 posted on 04/05/2004 3:56:20 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: RnMomof7
1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Thats exactily what has happened here, the gospel has been preached thousands of times here, its been rejected.

Have we talked about cars, motercycles, movies, family, yes and you have too. I have read most every calvinist thread here, you guys talk about other stuff too don't tell me you don't, your way off base here Mom and your calvinist pride is showing.

BigMack

1,857 posted on 04/05/2004 3:59:53 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
So am I surprised that you have lost more Christians than you have converted.

There it is again.

Is that Calvin I hear spinning in his grave?

1,858 posted on 04/05/2004 4:01:02 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
What does it matter. I believe in God now.

The question is to what extent your faith is in your own faith. And how much you can rely on it now? Can you say you "never really believed" what you were preaching?

The other question that Dave keeps hinting at is what you feel about those non-believers who believe in lots of OTHER "false" things and what way God uses those beliefs.

1,859 posted on 04/05/2004 4:05:27 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
If Irresistible grace comes on a person by someone preaching the gospel to them as you have to Steven he according to you cannot refuse or deny Christ, so according to you he is not or never has been one of the elect. What else are you to do? And don't lay the blame on this thread the gospel has been given to Steven several times.
You're beating a dead horse here even from your own standards. Stevens made up his mind and he will have to live with it the same as we will have to live with ours.

Gee you sound like another famous man that said "I wash my hands of this". You also sound more like a Calvinist than we do.

This thread presented the venue for Steve to have conversations with other apostate people and have them proselytize openly and via mail ..people he may never had met had it not been for this thread.

This thread is full of lost folks..but the conversation is good I guess .

There is a time to shake the dust from your feet , instead the enemy of the gospel is kissed and hugged.

Phl 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, [that they are] the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Phl 3:19 Whose end [is] destruction, whose God [is their] belly, and [whose] glory [is] in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

1,860 posted on 04/05/2004 4:09:26 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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