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Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")
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| Friday, February 20, 2004
| By Roger Friedman
Posted on 02/20/2004 5:46:17 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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When did calling someone's religion "antiquated" and "fringe" become "fair and balanced"?
This Roger Friedman has got to go.
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
To the liberals, any church that insists on using the bible is "antiquated" and "fringe".
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:50:13 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Holy Family rejects the universally accepted teachings Perhaps "widely accepted" would have been a better phrase.
And when will Islam or wahhabism be spoken of with such disdain? "This primitive, backward, and bloodthirsty variant of Islam is quite popular among the leaders of our so-called ally Saudi Arabia." You don't see it often put like that. But I guess its OK to badmouth Christian tradition.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:51:24 AM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(The only reason I don't question Kerry's patriotism is because I know it doesn't exist.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Faux Skews.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:51:41 AM PST
by
Guillermo
(It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
You are right he has to go, but there are better reasons than his use of 'antiquated' and 'fringe,' which I think apply in this case, though the word use is more prejudicial than insightful. Nope, the author is a pretty poor writer...
Holy Family rejects the universally accepted teachings of the Second Vatican Conference and chooses to stick with antiquated Catholic ideology.
How could the teachings of Vatican 2 be 'universally accepted' if in the same sentence he says that this church in particular rejects some of those teachings? It can't be 'universally accepted' if one group doesn't accept them. This reads like a sentence in a first draft of a high school newspaper article, which a smart faculty supervisor or senior class editor would fix.
I think the quality in writing on balance in the major media outlets has really plummeted in the last 20 years or so. On the other hand, the writers are the best and brightest ever - they have told me so. ;-)
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:52:49 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
When did calling someone's religion "antiquated" and "fringe" become "fair and balanced"?Technically, Gibson's church is "fringe," since it is not in union with the Los Angeles archdiocese and is outside the Catholic mainstream.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:52:54 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: HitmanNY
How could the teachings of Vatican 2 be 'universally accepted' if in the same sentence he says that this church in particular rejects some of those teachings? It can't be 'universally accepted' if one group doesn't accept them.They ARE universally accepted within the Catholic Church.
Gibson's chapel is not in union with the Catholic Church and Rome.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:55:13 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Mel Gibson is a public figure on his personal crusade to make a monumental religious movie. His life is open to scrutiny. He is a movie star, a director, and now a prominent religious figure.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
write the slut-fest promoters at fox:
foxlife@foxnews.com ...fringe church...
...his own personal church near Malibu...
...antiquated Catholic ideology...
I am not one of those religious "nuts" but I am truly believing that the Book of Revelations is in the final process
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:56:56 AM PST
by
steplock
To: sinkspur
I am aware of that, but it's still unfair to say the teachings are 'universally accepted.' This guy is trying to hot dog it and a good editor would have changed the wording, at least if I was his editor! :-)
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:57:24 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
I don't know about Gibson's church but his rendition of the crucifixion and resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ is bound to be criticized as "antiquated". After all, it happened 2,000 years ago.
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posted on
02/20/2004 5:57:53 AM PST
by
laconic
To: Blood of Tyrants
Never mind the Holy Family is a wonderful tax shelter too.
Of course Gibson is free to believe whatever it is that he chooses, despite the teachings of the Pope.
Never mind that his father only days ago referred to this Pope as an a$$.........
Flame away because it's clear that those who revere Gibson are keepers of the only true thoughts about the matter.
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posted on
02/20/2004 6:00:18 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: af_vet_1981
Mel Gibson is a public figure on his personal crusade to make a monumental religious movie. His life is open to scrutiny. It's one thing to attack Gibson's behavior. It's another to cast aspersions on a religion.
I believe that less than five percent of Americans are Jewish. Is that a "fringe" religion too, now? How about Buddists? Or the Mennonites? Or the Mormons? Are the "antiquated" religions?
Scrutinize Gibson for shady business dealings or intemperate statements (if they, in fact, exist). But don't single out a religion for attack.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
They hate Christians, specially the ones that are not Christian in name only. If you take your Christianity seriously, you become a target, especially in a godless town like Hollywood.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'm not Catholic, but my roots are Irish Cathloic, as are my husband's. During family get togethers, my Catholic relations frequently express anger over the Vatican II changes. I have to think this must be a common opinion among mainline Catholics.
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posted on
02/20/2004 6:03:03 AM PST
by
keats5
(And don't you dare correct my spelling!)
To: sinkspur
Is ABORTION "universally rejected" by members of the Catholic Church?
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posted on
02/20/2004 6:04:07 AM PST
by
leprechaun9
(Beware of little expenses because a small leak will sink a great ship!)
To: sinkspur
It would be interesting to find out how well attended this church is, and if it is considered a "Conservative Catholic" church. (whatever that might be) I mention this, because a few years ago, all churches that had a much more conservative, read "traditional" approach to services were seeing a marked increase in membership, whereas the more liberal churches were losing membership.
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posted on
02/20/2004 6:06:01 AM PST
by
stylin_geek
(Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
To: Behind Liberal Lines
This has now gone beyond absurd. Liberals commonly uses churches to hold political fundraisers which is illegal.
What evil the media has become to suggest Mel's money is funding evil.
The media ignores liberals taking "red Chinese" money to fund their campaigns.
I am not Catholic, however, this assault upon Mel's freedom of religion should show what Christians are up against.
Liberals and their mouth pieces have gone "MAD" no big deal about in your face law breaking among the perverts of the world selling fake papers in San Francisco.
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