[TexConfederate1861]

I wonder if the Shroud was STOLEN from the Orthodox during the Sack of Constantinople....those wonderful Crusaders who were out to liberate the Holy Land, but instead "liberated" everything they could lay their bloody hands on.....Those horses at St. Marks in Venice, for example......

[Swordmaker]

I wonder if the Shroud was STOLEN from the Orthodox during the Sack of Constantinople....those wonderful Crusaders who were out to liberate the Holy Land, but instead "liberated" everything they could lay their bloody hands on.....Those horses at St. Marks in Venice, for example......

You got it. In the eleventh century, the fourth Crusade was bogged down and after months of waiting in Constantinople to set sail for the Holy Land, the knights were feeling frisky and started looting everything in sight including the churches... or perhaps, especially the Churches.

A strange thing... One of the knights participating in this Crusade was a certain Jeoffrey de Charnay. It was about two centuries later that the Shroud appeared in the possession of a French Knight by the name of Geoffrey de Charney. Aside from the difference is spelling (a matter of opinion in those times) what do you want to bet that there is a relationship???

[Antoninus]

I wonder if the Shroud was STOLEN from the Orthodox during the Sack of Constantinople....those wonderful Crusaders who were out to liberate the Holy Land, but instead "liberated" everything they could lay their bloody hands on.....Those horses at St. Marks in Venice, for example......

I must point out that had the Crusaders not "stolen" the shroud, it would probably have been "liberated" by the Turks in AD 1453--in a bon-fire.