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To: restornu
Disclaimer: This post was made at the request of restornu. Mormon bashing is frowned upon on this site and I am posting this at the specific request of restornu, and it is intended for information purposes only.

When you make statements like that you should also include your source!

Well, OK, but only because you asked. I don't want to be accused of bashing our mormon friends!

A Utah Massacre and Mormon Memory
New York Times/May 24, 2003
By Sally Denton

Santa Fe, N.M. -- As families tramp all over the country this summer, visiting historic sites, there's one spot - Mountain Meadows in southwestern Utah - that won't be on many itineraries.

Mountain Meadows, a two-hour drive from one of the state's popular tourist destinations, Zion National Park, is the site of what the historian Geoffrey Ward has called "the most hideous example of the human cost exacted by religious fanaticism in American history until 9/11." And while it might not be a major tourist destination, for a century and a half the massacre at Mountain Meadows has been the focus of passionate debate among Mormons and the people of Utah. It is a debate that cuts to the core of the basic tenets of Mormonism. This, the darkest stain on the history of the religion, is a bitter reality and challenging predicament for a modern Mormon Church struggling to shed its extremist history.

On Sept. 11, 1857, in a meadow in southwestern Utah, a militia of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons, attacked a wagon train of Arkansas families bound for California. After a five-day siege, the militia persuaded the families to surrender under a flag of truce and a pledge of safe passage. Then, in the worst butchery of white pioneers by other white pioneers in the entire colonization of America, approximately 140 men, women and children were slaughtered. Only 17 children under the age of 8 - the age of innocence in the Mormon faith - were spared.

After the massacre, the church first claimed that local Paiute Indians were responsible, but as evidence of Mormon involvement mounted, it placed the sole blame for the killings on John D. Lee, a militia member and a Mormon zealot who was also the adopted son of the prophet Brigham Young. After nearly two decades, as part of a deal for statehood, Lee was executed by a firing squad in 1877. The church has been reluctant to assume responsibility - labeling Lee a renegade - but several historians, including some who are Mormon, believe that church leaders, though never prosecuted, ordered the massacre.

540 posted on 12/23/2003 5:55:08 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
Thank you for trying it is still just MUCH the author OPINION!
541 posted on 12/23/2003 6:03:04 AM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: Gamecock
Mormon bashing ... just what IS it?


Can we have a tight, definitive answer from the LDS members responding on this thread?

After all, if the JEWS are upset just because their names are being mentioned in the LDS temples, the rest of us should find out just which buttons the LDS do not want pressed here in the open at FRland.

549 posted on 12/23/2003 8:12:40 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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