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Jews for Allah
Jewsweek ^ | 9-9-03

Posted on 10/07/2003 12:05:35 PM PDT by SJackson



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Jews for Allah

It began as a joke, but it's now all too real. Adopting the same methodology of Jews for Jesus, a Web site is trying to tell you it's OK to be a Jew and follow Mohammed too.
 
by Alexandra Alter October 3, 2003
 
 

 
   

 

 


It began as sort of a joke. Mohamed Ghounem, 32, a mild-mannered, laid-off telecom worker who lives with his wife and daughter in suburban Connecticut, says it was the headline "Christ Converts to Islam" in the satirical newspaper The Onion that gave him the idea for his Web site, JewsforAllah.com.

At first, he laughed. Then he thought, "Why not?" Ghounem, whose religious pedigree includes a year of study at al-Azhar, the world's foremost institute of Sunni Islamic learning, said he felt frustrated by Muslims' lack of evangelical activity.

 

 

         
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Although Muslims are the world's fastest growing religious group with more than a billion adherents, they haven't been active enough in the battle for Jewish souls, Ghounem says. "Muslims haven't been doing it," he says. "The Muslim attitude, unfortunately, was 'Jews will never convert'."

But why target Jews, fellow monotheists whose faith is regarded by many as Islam's closest relative, and who the Quran describes as "People of the Book?" According to Ghounem's reasoning, to help the Jews, who remain dangerously ignorant of Mohammed's prophecy, and, in the long run, to turn Israel into an Islamic state.

Ghounem's goals, while seen by many as laughably far-fetched, have outraged leaders of Jewish counter-missionary groups who have already been fighting off Christian evangelists for decades and are wary of new attempts to convert Jews by aggressive or deceptive means.

A fervent admirer of Moishe Rosen, the founder of the messianic group Jews for Jesus, Ghounem has studied the groups' tactics and adopted their rhetoric. Like Jews for Jesus, an organization renowned for claiming a Jew who believes in Jesus is a "completed Jew," Ghounem says converts can maintain their Jewish cultural identity and observe Jewish holidays. He stresses Judaism and Islam's shared lineage of prophets and their similar dietary laws. And, in language almost identical to his Christian mentors, he insists that a true Jew follows Mohammed.

"If you're a true Torah follower, you'll believe in Mohammed, because he's predicted in the Torah," Ghounem says.

He also argues Jews can liberate themselves from the stringent demands of their religion by embracing Islam. "The holy Quran is a mercy to Jews," Ghounem says. "A lot of the things in the Torah, they're not going to have to do anymore."

The suggestion that Judaism's proximity to Islam justifies conversion remains odious to many, however, who see Ghounem's efforts as an affront to both religions. "What this guy is doing is a disservice to both faith systems," says Scott Hillman, executive director of Jews for Judaism, a group that seeks to educate and protect Jews from evangelical groups. "If he's going to say, 'Judaism is fulfilled by Islam,' he's saying Islam is incomplete."

Others say Ghounem is simply acting on the centuries-old impetus for people of all faiths to seek converts. Ibrahim Hooper of the Council for American Islamic Relations says Ghounem's objectives are in keeping with the principles of Islam, which encourages evangelism. "Muslims are encouraged to present accurate and balanced information about their faith to people of all religions," Hooper says.

Before he set out to convert Jews, Ghounem underwent a conversion of his own, from being an American college student who was mostly ignorant about his faith, to a self-fashioned Muslim scholar combating the pervasive myths about Islam he encountered on the Internet.

Ghounem, who immigrated to the United States from Egypt at age six, says his knowledge of Islam was tenuous when he graduated from Western Connecticut University with a degree in engineering. After returning to Cairo for a year to study at al-Azhar, Ghounem began spending hours a night in chat-room debates with Messianic Jews and Christians.

Unlike Jews for Jesus, Ghounem has no sponsors and no missionaries; he relies solely on the Internet for outreach. His Web site, which has had more than one million visitors since it was launched three years ago, has attracted about 200 "converts" who use it as a support group. It also provides a forum for Ghounem to address misconceptions about Islam, like the idea that Islam was spread by the sword, that the Quran is anti-Semitic, and that Jews and Muslims worship different gods.

Leaders of Jewish counter-missionary organizations claim they aren't overly concerned by Ghounem's efforts, saying the content of his Web site is so outrageous that most people don't pay attention. "This is a freak show, a side show," says Rabbi Tovia Singer, the head of Outreach Judaism, a group that works to bring converts back into the fold.

Moreover, they say Ghounem's background as an Egyptian-born Sunni Muslim probably doesn't help his quest for Jewish converts. "Ghounem wasn't a Jew in the first place. The Jews for Jesus founder was at least a convert who was Jewish," Hillman says.

Ghounem may not be Jewish, but the man who he has described as his alter ego, Yousef al Khattab, was born a Jew. The 35-year-old Brooklyn native, once known as Joseph Cohen, now lives in the Arab quarter of Jerusalem, where for the past three years he has operated the Web site JewstoIslam.com. Though the two men have never met, they monitor each other's progress and frequently chat online.

While Ghounem's site may invite ridicule, al Khattab's has been attacked with viruses, threats, and complaints. With links such as "My Heroes the Taliban" and "Freaky Jewish Stuff," which details such familiar anti-Semitic myths as rabbis sucking babies' blood, it is no wonder the site has been taken down several times.

As a former Jew preaching conversion amid the treacherous political and religious fault lines dividing Israel, al Khattab is a far more controversial figure than Ghounem. His transformation from being an ultra-Orthodox American Jew to a fundamentalist Muslim gives him license to preach a higher level of invective against Jews than his Gentile counterparts, says Singer, who says al Khattab threatened his life by posting his home address on the Internet and inviting Muslims to "visit him at his home."

"Jews who've converted to Islam are disenfranchised and self-hating," Singer says. "When you listen to them, you will hear virulent hatred toward Judaism. Their message is pregnant with hate."

But al Khattab, who denies ever having contact with Singer, says it is Judaism, rather than Jews, that he opposes, arguing that Jews have been misled by their rabbis. "Muslims are all inclusive and the whole message of Islam is to invite Jews, Nazis, capitalists, all religions and beliefs," al Khattab said in an e-mail.

Al Khattab, who has converted 11 Jews, said he was attracted by Islam's clear message of obedience to God. He seems unfazed by charges that he supports the goals of terrorists (he has called on Muslims to take up arms against Jews who don't convert), or by other Muslims' initial suspicions that he was a member of Mossad, the Israeli secret service.

"When we become Muslims we do this for the sake of Allah all mighty alone," he says. "We don't care if Muslims or non-Muslims approve of our goals."

Ghounem, who shares al Khattab's goal of turning Israel into an Islamic state, has chosen a different approach, however, taking careful stock of opinions about his Web site and often adjusting its content to appease critics. He took down a link about Sufism, the mystical strain of Islam, after some of his more orthodox fans complained Sufism is a fringe movement alien to Islam.

Ghounem said he recognizes converts risk alienation from both faiths, but hopes his Web site might lead to dialogue between Muslims and Jews. Well, that and one other thing. "My goal is to surpass Jews for Jesus, which I consider 100 percent inevitable," he said enthusiastically.



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To: SJackson
"If you're a true Torah follower, you'll believe in Mohammed, because he's predicted in the Torah," Ghounem says.

Well, he's predicted there about as much as J*sus is.

Leaders of Jewish counter-missionary organizations claim they aren't overly concerned by Ghounem's efforts

Of course not. Now, if he were trying to convert Jews to chr*stianity . . . !

21 posted on 10/07/2003 1:03:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Palaeoconservatives" are national relativists.)
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To: No Blue States
"Skinheads for Racial Diversity."

There is one of those---S.H.A.R.P.

SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice.

22 posted on 10/07/2003 1:07:39 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: SJackson
OK, suppose all Jews convert to Islam and Israel becomes a Muslim state? What happens to the 'Palestinians', hmm?
23 posted on 10/07/2003 1:08:17 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: SJackson
"to turn Israel into an Islamic state"

Islamic nations have been trying to do this since the establishment of Israel as a nation millenia ago through murder, war, assimilation, slavery but they haven't succeeded. More specifically, they won't succeed.
24 posted on 10/07/2003 1:17:20 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: SJackson
Satanists for Jesus?
Abortionists for the Pope
Hookers for Chastity
Vegans for KFC
25 posted on 10/07/2003 1:25:03 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (those rats keep slinging the mud)
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To: G.Mason
It seems that you all are confused about what Islam is. I'm a Muslim. It is clear from our holy book, The Qur'an, that a person is only a Muslim by his actions. The root word from which Muslim and Islam is derived means peace and submission to God. A Muslim then, is a person who submits to God.

We believe that all of God's prophets were Muslims, meaning they submit to God. Everyone believes that, whether they be Jews or Christians. So we believe Jesus was a Muslim, along with all the other Jewish prophets. We believe Jesus to be a prophet of God.

So, the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim
26 posted on 10/07/2003 1:25:27 PM PDT by joe032783 (Views of a Muslim)
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To: joe032783; rageaholic
You've got it totally backwards. Jesus was a Jew. Mohammad was probably a Jew, a bit confused, who broke away from common thought to create this other branch. If he wasn't a Jew then he was a pagan, just like all the other non-monotheists of his era.

Notice, I am not referring to a point of view, but to historical fact. You can have any "point of view" you choose, it still doesn't change reality (only your own perception).

27 posted on 10/07/2003 1:38:40 PM PDT by John Frum
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To: joe032783
>>the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim

How 'bout female gods?


28 posted on 10/07/2003 1:40:24 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: SJackson
Oh please, the comparison is ridiculous:

1. Jews for Jesus was started by Jews.

2. JFJ espouses a faith that started with Jews.

3. JFJ espouses a faith whose Scriptures were written by Jews ( including the New Testament).

4. They follow Jesus, a Jew.

5. They believe the Torah was given by God and is an accurate record of God's self-revelation.

6. They believe in the promise of the Land.

7.They support the State of Israel in it's struggle for existence.

8. Jews who believe in Jesus (not quite the same as "JFJ" the organization) serve in the IDF.

9. JFJ works tirelessly to combat anti-semitism among Christians ---they literally spend more time doing this than they do "evangelizing."

10. They do not abide Holocaust-deniers.

11. They Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.

12. They encourage people to study the Hebrew scriptures

I could keep going...... But comparing JFJ , or for that matter, Jews who believe in Jesus, with this guy is utterly freakish.

29 posted on 10/07/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: SJackson
Islam and the Onion. Both full of sick jokes.
30 posted on 10/07/2003 1:41:46 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: joe032783
"A Muslim then, is a person who submits to God. "

Oh, heck. I guess I'm a Muslim too, then.

32 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:58 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: joe032783
I've been wanting to know, is killing the Americans and Israelis the sixth pillar of Islam, or does it just look that way?"
34 posted on 10/07/2003 1:54:43 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: joe032783
I'm not confused about this ....... I consiser you a threat to me and my way of life.

We are enemies.

36 posted on 10/07/2003 2:13:10 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Lazamataz
I see they are still trying to improve on original thought.

Silly people.

37 posted on 10/07/2003 2:15:24 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: joe032783
Mohammadanism is a cult!
38 posted on 10/07/2003 2:59:20 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: G.Mason; HURRICANE FORCE
I see they are still trying to improve on original thought.

Well, I was amused by "cats for rocking chair showrooms".

39 posted on 10/07/2003 3:23:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: joe032783
So, the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim.

Well. Thank you. Now certain passages I have read from the Koran make sense. Instead of calling for the killing of all who do not follow their particular religion, the Koran calls for the killing of all who do not submit to G-d.

It's still too damned harsh in a civilized society, but it makes this particular Jew put his Uzi back in it's carrying case. :o)

40 posted on 10/07/2003 3:27:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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