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To: SJackson
Oh please, the comparison is ridiculous:

1. Jews for Jesus was started by Jews.

2. JFJ espouses a faith that started with Jews.

3. JFJ espouses a faith whose Scriptures were written by Jews ( including the New Testament).

4. They follow Jesus, a Jew.

5. They believe the Torah was given by God and is an accurate record of God's self-revelation.

6. They believe in the promise of the Land.

7.They support the State of Israel in it's struggle for existence.

8. Jews who believe in Jesus (not quite the same as "JFJ" the organization) serve in the IDF.

9. JFJ works tirelessly to combat anti-semitism among Christians ---they literally spend more time doing this than they do "evangelizing."

10. They do not abide Holocaust-deniers.

11. They Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.

12. They encourage people to study the Hebrew scriptures

I could keep going...... But comparing JFJ , or for that matter, Jews who believe in Jesus, with this guy is utterly freakish.

29 posted on 10/07/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: cookcounty
As much as no one wants to admit it, theologically Judaism and Islam are much closer than Judaism and Christianity.

Both Judaism and Islam preach a pure Monotheism with 1 undivided god, unlike Christianity which preaches the Trinity.

Both Judaism and Islam are structured as religions of law and obedience to the law (I know, I've studied both legal systems)-- Christianity is structured as a religion of faith, with few regulations and ordinances.

Both Judaism and Islam are Semetic by nature, whereas Christianity owes a strong debt to Greek and Roman philosophical concepts.

Both Judaism and Islam are strongly anti-iconoclastic, whereas many branches of Christianity permit statues and paintings of divine beings

I could go on... that doesn't mean I endorse Islam, I don't. But it's critical to understand that Islam itself is not an evil religion, nor one that far from the Jewish and Christian tradition (whose holy texts are also filled with calls for violence and war). The problem with Islam is its corruption by the Wahhabi nuts in Saudi Arabia, which has unfortunately supplanted traditional mainstream Sunni Islam.

What Islam desperately needs is something akin to a post-Protestant reformation Peace of Westphalia, where ancient texts get interpretated in ways to foster harmony rather than conflict. For example, an Islamic reformer could easily endorse Israel as a Jewish State based on the Koranic command that G-d gave the land to the Jews, much as American Protestant reformers developed Christian Zionism that suplanted old Catholic "replacement theology." In similiar ways, an Islamic reformer could preach genuine peace between Muslims and Christians.

Btw, while we are on the subject of missionary groups, I admit to being a big fan of Christians for Moses-- an organization of ex-Christians who have become Benei Noach (followers of the Jewish faith who do not convert).

61 posted on 10/07/2003 9:47:04 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: cookcounty
9. JFJ works tirelessly to combat anti-semitism among Christians ---they literally spend more time doing this than they do "evangelizing."

Something they shouldn't have to do. Never mind the hypocrisy of a "Christian" hating the people Jesus came from, there's so much stuff in Acts and the epistles about Jews and Gentiles being the same in God's eyes.

87 posted on 10/08/2003 8:24:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: cookcounty
1. Jews for Jesus was started by Jews.

Well, actually not. It was started by Christians, Methodists to be precise, and during the 19th century was known by the cumbersome title of The American Society for Evangelizing the Jews. It was a Christian missionary society which was dedicated to converting Jews to Christianity, mainly by paying them money to convert.

The Society re-orged a number of times, trying various gimmicks. The "JFJ" was its reincarnation sometime in the 1970's. Morris "Moishe" Rosen is an ordained Baptist minister. He claims to have Jewish ancestry.

103 posted on 10/08/2003 11:01:21 AM PDT by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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