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Jews for Allah
Jewsweek ^ | 9-9-03

Posted on 10/07/2003 12:05:35 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
"If you're a true Torah follower, you'll believe in Mohammed, because he's predicted in the Torah," Ghounem says.

Well, he's predicted there about as much as J*sus is.

Leaders of Jewish counter-missionary organizations claim they aren't overly concerned by Ghounem's efforts

Of course not. Now, if he were trying to convert Jews to chr*stianity . . . !

21 posted on 10/07/2003 1:03:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Palaeoconservatives" are national relativists.)
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To: No Blue States
"Skinheads for Racial Diversity."

There is one of those---S.H.A.R.P.

SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice.

22 posted on 10/07/2003 1:07:39 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: SJackson
OK, suppose all Jews convert to Islam and Israel becomes a Muslim state? What happens to the 'Palestinians', hmm?
23 posted on 10/07/2003 1:08:17 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: SJackson
"to turn Israel into an Islamic state"

Islamic nations have been trying to do this since the establishment of Israel as a nation millenia ago through murder, war, assimilation, slavery but they haven't succeeded. More specifically, they won't succeed.
24 posted on 10/07/2003 1:17:20 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: SJackson
Satanists for Jesus?
Abortionists for the Pope
Hookers for Chastity
Vegans for KFC
25 posted on 10/07/2003 1:25:03 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (those rats keep slinging the mud)
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To: G.Mason
It seems that you all are confused about what Islam is. I'm a Muslim. It is clear from our holy book, The Qur'an, that a person is only a Muslim by his actions. The root word from which Muslim and Islam is derived means peace and submission to God. A Muslim then, is a person who submits to God.

We believe that all of God's prophets were Muslims, meaning they submit to God. Everyone believes that, whether they be Jews or Christians. So we believe Jesus was a Muslim, along with all the other Jewish prophets. We believe Jesus to be a prophet of God.

So, the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim
26 posted on 10/07/2003 1:25:27 PM PDT by joe032783 (Views of a Muslim)
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To: joe032783; rageaholic
You've got it totally backwards. Jesus was a Jew. Mohammad was probably a Jew, a bit confused, who broke away from common thought to create this other branch. If he wasn't a Jew then he was a pagan, just like all the other non-monotheists of his era.

Notice, I am not referring to a point of view, but to historical fact. You can have any "point of view" you choose, it still doesn't change reality (only your own perception).

27 posted on 10/07/2003 1:38:40 PM PDT by John Frum
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To: joe032783
>>the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim

How 'bout female gods?


28 posted on 10/07/2003 1:40:24 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: SJackson
Oh please, the comparison is ridiculous:

1. Jews for Jesus was started by Jews.

2. JFJ espouses a faith that started with Jews.

3. JFJ espouses a faith whose Scriptures were written by Jews ( including the New Testament).

4. They follow Jesus, a Jew.

5. They believe the Torah was given by God and is an accurate record of God's self-revelation.

6. They believe in the promise of the Land.

7.They support the State of Israel in it's struggle for existence.

8. Jews who believe in Jesus (not quite the same as "JFJ" the organization) serve in the IDF.

9. JFJ works tirelessly to combat anti-semitism among Christians ---they literally spend more time doing this than they do "evangelizing."

10. They do not abide Holocaust-deniers.

11. They Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.

12. They encourage people to study the Hebrew scriptures

I could keep going...... But comparing JFJ , or for that matter, Jews who believe in Jesus, with this guy is utterly freakish.

29 posted on 10/07/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: SJackson
Islam and the Onion. Both full of sick jokes.
30 posted on 10/07/2003 1:41:46 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: joe032783
"A Muslim then, is a person who submits to God. "

Oh, heck. I guess I'm a Muslim too, then.

32 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:58 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: joe032783
I've been wanting to know, is killing the Americans and Israelis the sixth pillar of Islam, or does it just look that way?"
34 posted on 10/07/2003 1:54:43 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: joe032783
I'm not confused about this ....... I consiser you a threat to me and my way of life.

We are enemies.

36 posted on 10/07/2003 2:13:10 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Lazamataz
I see they are still trying to improve on original thought.

Silly people.

37 posted on 10/07/2003 2:15:24 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: joe032783
Mohammadanism is a cult!
38 posted on 10/07/2003 2:59:20 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: G.Mason; HURRICANE FORCE
I see they are still trying to improve on original thought.

Well, I was amused by "cats for rocking chair showrooms".

39 posted on 10/07/2003 3:23:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: joe032783
So, the Muslim point of view is that no matter who you are, if you submit to God, you are a Muslim.

Well. Thank you. Now certain passages I have read from the Koran make sense. Instead of calling for the killing of all who do not follow their particular religion, the Koran calls for the killing of all who do not submit to G-d.

It's still too damned harsh in a civilized society, but it makes this particular Jew put his Uzi back in it's carrying case. :o)

40 posted on 10/07/2003 3:27:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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