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[Dante3]

Wonder what is Davis/Bustemante's next attack? Arnold is an alien?

[GSWarrior]

Very astute analysis. As for Davis and Busta...this is more than just a recall, it's the ultimate disgrace. They will be in denial for the rest of their lives. Davis' place in history is assured!

It's all good!!!!!

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>Democrats are defecting to Schwarzenegger so fast we may need a new term -- not the Reagan Democrats but the Recall Democrats.

Gray Davis did something something noone in the entire GOP could manage. He's turning CA back into a competitive electoral state.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Cornered Rats are more vicious than wolverines. Californians need to prepare for four days of living in a take no prisoners war zone.

[Dog Gone]

For nearly a decade, the far right has trapped the Republican Party in a murder-suicide soap opera, putting forth right-wing candidates for statewide office who can't win elections. The far right, which is better-organized and willing to fight dirtier than Republican moderates, has crippled its party. The Democratic Party of California has benefited enormously.

I'm not sure I would have worded it this harshly, but the gist of this is probably accurate.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Thus my question to the FREEPer community earlier this week: Will a Republican victory in October at least make California COMPETITIVE in 2004 for the President? I'd LOVE to see my former party, the Democrat Party, have to spend MONEY in that state!!

[NormsRevenge]

One clear message from this poll is that Californians don't much like the leftist slant gripping Sacramento Democrats, which just resulted in a raft of new job killer anti-business bills. The approval rating for McClintock and the 63 percent disapproval of the driver's license law bill should strike fear into legislators who fought budget cuts and pushed for bloated state spending.

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2004 will be the best chance for all reasonable folks to kick these socialists to the curb. They are nothing more than enemies of all those they say they care so much for.

[old school]

All this really means is that California voters are as dumb as stumps. You don't have to have a great deal of political acumen to grasp that!

[DodgeRam]

There's bound to be some overnight polling does anyone have any news on that, or any internal polling that might have leaked out?

[Grampa Dave]

Welcome back my friend.

There are many great remarks/summaries in this great article. These struck me as tidal change and a big change:

"The poll indicates that the "progressive" agenda Davis and the AFL-CIO union honchos believed Californians would back -- whose essential message was higher taxes to support burgeoning state welfare programs, softer treatment for illegal immigrants and minimal cuts in the bureaucracy -- failed miserably. Two key findings stand out, beyond 56 percent support for recall, and Schwarzenegger's solid 40 percent to 32 percent lead over Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.

"First, groups that might have warmed to the images Davis projected -- Davis arm-in-arm with the crowd from the failed bilingual education movement as he signed a bill giving licenses to illegal immigrants, Davis promoting his vastly skyrocketing expenditures for health insurance for the children of working parents -- had second thoughts.

"The Times poll says two out of 10 liberals now want to oust Davis, as do 54 percent of women, union members, and the elderly, and 53 percent of voter-rich Los Angeles County. Democrats are defecting to Schwarzenegger so fast we may need a new term -- not the Reagan Democrats but the Recall Democrats.

We have a two jobs to do this coming Tuesday to allow these Tidal Changes to become permanent in California:

1. We have to vote/drop kick Davis out of office with big margin.

2. Then we have vote for our two guys so that both of them beat Cruz Busta Our Wallets.

Then we have to circle the winner with our SUV's and Pickup Trucks to protect him from the angry rats after the election. If #2 above happens, that will be a big shot fired across the bows of the perverts in the legislature not to screw around with our new governor.

Lets drive the rats of California into a deeper self enduced drugged out depression next week. Then keep them depressed until GW carries California in 2004. Then they can leave the state or get out of politics.

[Roughneck]

"panic reigns inside the camps that are losing, fur will now fly with gobs of flesh attached"

Wonderful, pleasing, metaphor for today's socialist-democrat party!

[Imal]

When a dictator flees to his bunker, sanity is locked outside.

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[DoughtyOne]

After what Davis did to Riordan, the Democratic Party believed it would enjoy years of control in Sacramento. Davis and the Democratic majority moved further and further left to appease unions and others -- but the populace didn't.

That's an interesting, and I might add, quite insightful comment.

Davis felt that all he would have to do is paint someone as a moderate Republican, and the Republicans would reject them.  Some other people agreed with Davis.  They have been running around this forum for several months trying to use this ploy once again, only they moved farther right to do it.  Even Simon was more of a moderate than they are.

BTW, it didn't work did it.

[Bonaparte]

"The far right, which is better-organized and willing to fight dirtier than Republican moderates, has crippled its party."

This writer understands many things, but he has no idea who staunch conservatives are or how they function. On that subject, he's completely clueless.

[alloysteel]

Going off a cliff and ending up in the bottom of a canyon has to pretty much wreck the California Democrat party, 'tis true. But all that could have been avoided if the "social conscience" attitudes had not been allowed to prevail at the expense of responsible stewardship of the state's resources. A lot of California's finances had been smoke-and-mirrors for a decade or even longer, but as long as the dot-coms gave a veneer of wealth, even as the defense contractors were disappearing, the cash flow still seemed to be there. When the dot-coms disappeared in a wisp of vapor, the reality suddenly stood out in stark relief - California's gold fields had pretty well petered out.

California is still a major agricultural producer, with the dollar volume of its total output making up the major portion of ALL domestic agricultural production. Sure, the Midwest leads in exports of field-grown grains, but the relative value of corn, wheat and soybeans per unit is far less than oranges, strawberries and avocados. But outside of a few professors in Davis, who in California recognizes the value of agriculture to the state? Certainly not the current state administration.

California survived and thrived in the Depression, because they were producing foodstuffs for the rest of the country, while the drought in the Midwest was turning that region into the Dustbowl. This potential could still turn California around, because, Lord knows, there are not that many other viable industries still within the state, given the current regulatory and tax climate.

Of course, they could re-write the regulatory and tax code, and reverse the current hemorrhage of cash and talented people, but that may be perhaps too much to expect at this stage. California may have to hurt a LOT before this becomes a majority opinion.

[RhoTheta]

Ping

[Southack]

"The new Los Angeles Times Poll, which echoes the recent Gallup-conducted poll for CNN-USA Today, shows something truly intriguing besides big support for recalling Davis next Tuesday.

The poll indicates that the "progressive" agenda Davis and the AFL-CIO union honchos believed Californians would back -- whose essential message was higher taxes to support burgeoning state welfare programs, softer treatment for illegal immigrants and minimal cuts in the bureaucracy -- failed miserably."

BWaaa ha ha haaa!