Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Our Greatest Sin of Silence (Kremlin has bled Chechnya and made it a model for the rest of Russia)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, October 2, 2003 | ANDRE GLUCKSMANN

Posted on 10/02/2003 7:13:12 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:50:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

There are deaths that weigh no more than a feather. Entire peoples who don't count. They have only one right, the right to disappear. They are absent from our concerns and from our television screens, even before the tanks, the bombs, the raids and the landmines reduce them to nothing. The Chechens live in absolute solitude, surrendered to the pleasures of a massacring Russian army. And no one -- not the United Nations, not world public opinion, not any one of the democracies that are so proud of their principles -- cries bloody murder!


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; caucasuslist; chechnya
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

1 posted on 10/02/2003 7:13:13 AM PDT by presidio9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Sorry. No sympathy here. Bunch of Islamo nuts. You #$%^ with the bull (or in this case the bear) you get the horns.
2 posted on 10/02/2003 7:18:32 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Donate to Free Republic, and Save Larry The Lobster!!!

Donate Here By Secure Server

Or mail checks to
FreeRepublic , LLC
PO BOX 9771
FRESNO, CA 93794

or you can use

PayPal at Jimrob@psnw.com

STOP BY AND BUMP THE FUNDRAISER THREAD-
It is in the breaking news sidebar!

3 posted on 10/02/2003 7:19:41 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Good Grief, the Chechnyans have casued more terrorism in Moscow than Bin Laden did in New York. They want to turn Chechnya into an Islamic State ruled by Sharia Law. It would be like Dearborn Michigan wanting to seceed from the U.S. to establish and Islamic country through terrorism. Russia is perfectly justified in defending it's home territory against the same enemy that wishes to destroy all of Western civilization.
4 posted on 10/02/2003 7:41:41 AM PDT by doc30
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
This argument makes zero sense.

"Do they not suspect that the Afghan scenario is repeating itself? The Soviet Red Army broke Afghanistan, set up gangsters in the ruins. Then the Taliban and Osama bin Laden came. The fall of the Twin Towers was the result. With the West's abandonment of Chechnya, the tragedy repeats itself."

But we are now doing precisely the opposite of what we did in Afghanistan. Back then, we helped the Muslims against the Soviet Union, and were repaid for our help with 9/11. Now, we are allying ourselves with Russia against the terrorists. That's not the same thing, very obviously.

Sure, there will be more terrorist attacks. But surely it makes more sense to fight them than to help them, now that the USSR has collapsed.
5 posted on 10/02/2003 7:43:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
"a good Chechen is a dead Chechen"

Couldn't have said it better myself. That's basically my sentiment when it comes to all jihadi cowards.
6 posted on 10/02/2003 7:57:59 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (PORK AKBAR!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
But we are now doing precisely the opposite of what we did in Afghanistan. Back then, we helped the Muslims against the Soviet Union, and were repaid for our help with 9/11. Now, we are allying ourselves with Russia against the terrorists. That's not the same thing, very obviously.

Well said. I only hope we don't get bit by the Muslims we helped in Bosnia.

7 posted on 10/02/2003 8:06:52 AM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
The Chechens are the Palestinians who are al Qaeda...all Islamist cultures who would impose their will and shari'a law on the majority by force if they could. I don't think Putin wants to wipe out every Chechen, far from it. Putin may be more realistic though, than those who see every Islamist as a victim. The Islamists are like the Borg, they will never rest and never stop until we all are assimilated. They have already proven they are willing to kill a theater full of hundreds of Russians, and have no doubt been responsible for at least some of the apartment building bombings that never seem to be big news in the US. If the Chechens were right at our border and we suffered the same attacks, I'll bet we would come down hard on them as well.
8 posted on 10/02/2003 8:09:35 AM PDT by Sender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
The Chechens deserve everything they get from the Russian military. In fact, I believe the Russians need to be even more aggressive in eradicating this vermin. They are a blight on the face of this earth.
9 posted on 10/02/2003 8:42:03 AM PDT by AlaskaErik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Is this Andre Glucksmann the same as the one below?

In "Ouest contre Ouest," by Andre Glucksmann, one of the few leading French intellectuals to challenge the country's position on the Iraq war, France is described as a nation, with others in Europe, that fled the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on the United States in panic and attempted to set up a sterile biosphere away from the world's realities.
**End excerpt**

Looks like his Humanist tendencies will have him discounted in the US and British Conservative media.

Shouldn't it be argued that China will receive the next terrorist attack by the Chechen al-Qaeda faction?
10 posted on 10/02/2003 8:48:00 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander ((posting without reading since 3/25/1999))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AlaskaErik
Near as I can tell, the three most messed up collections of head-cases on this planet, outside of North Korea of course, are chechens, palestinians, and albanians. Chechens in particular are hated by all peoples anywhere near them. I mean, the main industry in chechiniya has always been kidnapping and torturing people from surrounding countries to try to get ransoms from their families.
11 posted on 10/02/2003 8:48:03 AM PDT by martianagent
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: AlaskaErik
Near as I can tell, the three most messed up collections of head-cases on this planet, outside of North Korea of course, are chechens, palestinians, and albanians. Chechens in particular are hated by all peoples anywhere near them. I mean, the main industry in chechiniya has always been kidnapping and torturing people from surrounding countries to try to get ransoms from their families.
12 posted on 10/02/2003 8:48:10 AM PDT by martianagent
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
The Chechen nation counts barely a million individuals, of whom between 100,000 and 200,000 have died at the hand of the Russian army

And 500,000 Albanian Muslims got exterminated in Kosovo.

13 posted on 10/02/2003 9:10:20 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: *Caucasus_List
bump
14 posted on 10/02/2003 9:33:14 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
No sympathy from me. A good Islamist is a dead Islamist, as far as I am concerned. May their suffering be unbearable.
15 posted on 10/02/2003 11:19:44 AM PDT by FierceDraka ("I got SOUL, and I'm SUPER BAD")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9; All
"And so they try to justify such a weighty complicity. For months after Sept. 11, it was trumpeted that Osama bin Laden was protected by an iron guard composed of "Pakistanis, Arabs and . . . Chechens." The rumor, started by Moscow, was taken at face value. After the defeat of the Taliban, not one Chechen was discovered in Afghanistan, dead, alive, in the prisons or at Guantanamo."

Pure nonsense. There *were* Chechens fighting alongside Al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. For example, allied forces discovered a journal written by a Chechen which basically contrasted the Russian and American armies. It said that to destroy a Russian army squad's combat effictiveness, you could just kill or wound it's leader. That didn't work with the American unit.
16 posted on 10/02/2003 11:21:04 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Sending bloody muslims to allah seems merciful enough.
17 posted on 10/02/2003 12:19:49 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Liberal = Socialist = Communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #18 Removed by Moderator

To: KantianBurke
I could care less. I don't accept all "self determination" especially by insane Islamics. The Russkies needed to kick their ass take their gas (and oil). And this they did. As it is too much of the world's oil is under Muslim control
19 posted on 10/02/2003 12:47:20 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: martianagent
Near as I can tell, the three most messed up collections of head-cases on this planet, outside of North Korea of course, are chechens, palestinians, and albanians. Chechens in particular are hated by all peoples anywhere near them. I mean, the main industry in chechiniya has always been kidnapping and torturing people from surrounding countries to try to get ransoms from their families.

Mad Mo' would be right proud of such inbred, misfit disciples

20 posted on 10/02/2003 12:49:23 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson