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It's just like comments about white boxers always getting a chance to fight the champs, while other black boxers have to work a long time to get the opportunity. That's just the way it is, successful white boxers are fewer and so are promoted more. Remember the movie "Great White Hope"?

But obviously from a football--not a %#@$% political perspective--McNabb did well, and it's just as I expected, that he would bounce back.

1 posted on 09/30/2003 6:33:21 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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Yes, Rush is racist, but so are the rest of us.
2 posted on 09/30/2003 6:35:25 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: GulliverSwift
Is Sports Illustrated Communist?
3 posted on 09/30/2003 6:35:59 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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I hate to say it as I've always been a fan of Rush, but he was a bit over the top. I was watching that on Sunday and I thought to myself "oh ***t, he didn't really say that did he?" and yes, he did say it. It was over the top and dumb.
4 posted on 09/30/2003 6:36:03 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Shenandoah and Blue Ridge will re-emerge as the investment of the 21st Century....)
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To: GulliverSwift
Is Rush racist?

No, he is not.

He made an observation / opinion about an issue in the NFL that has been simmering for the last several years. Every so often, it gets moved to the front burner, then goes back to simmer status.

This was not a Howard Cossell / Jimmy the Greek type comment in any manner, shape or form.

There is no issue, IMHO, with what Rush said.

Of course, there are lots of folks that will play the race card on this.

Nothing new about that.

LVM

8 posted on 09/30/2003 6:42:33 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Those that live by the sword get shot by those that don't.)
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13 posted on 09/30/2003 6:43:55 PM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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You know, a lot of us Eagles fans aren't all that happy with McNabb...do I think he's there because he's black? No, that seems patently absurd to me, and I think Rush is seeing something that isn't there. But after last year I'm not 100% convinced that McMabb is the right guy.
22 posted on 09/30/2003 6:49:32 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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He's making a point about political correctness and affirmative action. He seems to be saying the Eagles would probably have benched a white QB by now based on similar performance, but that McNabb is getting a longer run at recovery because benching a black QB might look bad.
23 posted on 09/30/2003 6:49:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Pummeluh pummeluh pummeluh)
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I don't see anything racist in Rush's commentary.

But he did imply McNabb was a token, which will probably get him in trouble with the PC crowd.

24 posted on 09/30/2003 6:50:26 PM PDT by Jorge
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I tried to watch that ESPN show Rush is on but I just couldn't abide all the hollering and guys trying to talk over each other.

It reminded me of a bunch of drunks in a sports bar.

31 posted on 09/30/2003 6:59:37 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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No, I think he's a conservative. That'll bring out the racist charge every time.
35 posted on 09/30/2003 7:03:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I think Rush is suffering from the same phenomenon that undermined Dennis Miller. The idea of having a non-sports guy on the show might sound good to the TV marketing execs. But once the non-sports guy gets there, there's really no meaningful role for him.

Dennis tried to create a niche by making obscure literary and cultural references that virtually no one understood. Now Rush is inappropriately injecting politics.

Rush is the best at what he does on his own show. He should go back to it and leave the sports to the pros.
38 posted on 09/30/2003 7:03:22 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Considering all of the nonsense taking place in the NFL with coaches, I'd say that Rush has a good point. It is quite apparent that even the NFL isn't immune from affirmative action.
41 posted on 09/30/2003 7:06:59 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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Oh, is it football season?
44 posted on 09/30/2003 7:16:25 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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No. The exchange he had with the panel was not racist. However it was ridiculous.
46 posted on 09/30/2003 7:18:54 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Bück dich befehl ich dir)
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I disagree with Rush on this one and believe McNabb's a top-flight QB, but just a coupla weeks ago Limbaugh was coming down hard on Favre and Testeverde, so I don't think this is linked to any sorta racial bias, imho...MUD
49 posted on 09/30/2003 7:20:08 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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I'm in South Jersey and the local all sports radio station -- WIP -- was talking about Rush's comment all day.

The hosts were (naturally) outraged. Callers less so.

My take:

1) McNabb IS overrated.

2) McNabb's "overratedness" has nothing to do with the NFL bigwigs wanting to promote black quarterbacks.

3) McNabb's overratedness has everything to do with not being an accurate passer, not being able to read a defense, and not telling his pompous coach -- Andy Reid -- to stick his lousy game plans up his ever expanding back side.

4) Rush's comment WAS silly.

5) Rush should stick to his day job (of which I am a big fan).

51 posted on 09/30/2003 7:22:12 PM PDT by tbg681
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All of this criticism is just a big fat watermelon (no pun intended) across home plate for Rush to hit out of the park. Rush is labeled a racist for mentioning the controversy of the unspoken racial quotas at the QB position (as well as the oft spoken coaching 'quota', which he wasnt blasted on), while anyone else can trash conservatives on race matters whenever they like.

Additionally, it seems odd that this is brought up concerning Rush's comments about QBs but not coaches. Could it be that the left considers coaching to be one of those positions where talent doesnt matter and good ole boys networks reign, and therefore worthy of attack because the talent required isnt as apparent as it is of a QB on the field? I think that this is a pretty strong indicator of the left's opinion of those who gain lofty positions by EARNING them. Since they either dont have the perseverance or the talent to land these positions yet are intellectually superior (sarcasm) to the people who hold them, then obviously a conspiracy exists to keep them out. This is something that they cant say with the QB position, because while any idiot watching football can tell whether or not the QB is any good, it takes experience and skill as a fan to spot good coaching. Therefore it is easier to claim that coaching positions are controlled by a bunch of racists and convince the ever so intelligent leftist legions of mind-numbed robots that there is a racist conspiracy afoot....JFK

53 posted on 09/30/2003 7:29:43 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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Of course Rush Limbaugh is a racist!

Any rich white guy who would hand over his (livelihood) multimillion-dollar talk-show to a black guy (Walter Williams) while he is on vacation MUST be racist...er wait…

I've counter many arguments about Rush being a racist by pointing this tiny fact out...
58 posted on 09/30/2003 7:43:58 PM PDT by TSgt (“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.” - General George S. Patton)
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Rush was hired so that he could be fired.
62 posted on 09/30/2003 7:49:04 PM PDT by Consort
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No, he's not a racist. Not that I could give a crap about football, or sports in general for that matter.
64 posted on 09/30/2003 7:55:18 PM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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